Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>“Ohiomom- who was more obligated under the law to report the incident to the Child Protective Agency- the GA or Paterno?”</p>

<p>I believe both were equally obligated under the law as well as morally. </p>

<p>“Paterno had the power to stop it. The grad asst didn’t.” </p>

<p>By reporting it to Child Protective Services GA would also have had the power to stop it.</p>

<p>By the way I fully acknowledge that when all the information is out and all sides to the incidents told Paterno could have failed here. I am not giving a pass at all. I am waiting to see as much of the facts before I decide. </p>

<p>I hope the DA makes a statement to give their opinion on both Paterno individually and the University as an organization. We know the DA feels the two charged failed.</p>

<p>The GA isn’t going to be charged with anything–he’s the star witness, at least for this part of the case. Without him, for example, there’s no perjury case. I can understand the impulse to put as much of the blame as possible on him, but I just don’t buy it.</p>

<p>I am unsure what power Paterno had to stop Sandusky from being around children. I agree he had the power to ban him from Penn St football related activity.</p>

<p>geeps why wow just wow? Do complete facts matter to you? Do you have all the facts here yet?</p>

<p>I’m lining up with sevmom and qdogpa. I’m not making any legal assumptions until ALL the evidence is in and we have heard from both sides. But if a red flag has been raised, then ANY association with young boys after the first accusation should have had everyone scrambling - that is a reasonable action. For Sandusky to have the arrogance to continue the abuse AT PENN STATE just makes this appalling.</p>

<p>Hunt- how important is Paterno to the case. I would assume his testimony and actions and the GA’s would match.</p>

<p>rom _ I think seeing Sandusky with children would have been troubling but tell me officially what could anyone have done- without risking libel charges. Yes- in retrospect maybe they should have risked facing libel by going to every person in State College and saying Sandusky has never been found guilty or even charged but he is a pedophile so keep your kids away from him.</p>

<p>youdontsay- your post my be correct but we have no way of knowing that. You just assume they are guilty and if not it is because the fix is in. That is a tough standard to prove your innocence.</p>

<p>At least the GA did something. But, how could he live with the cover up after what he observed? For the sake of his career?</p>

<p>The grad asst had the ability to report it independently, but he didn’t hold the sway to stop it/get something done, as Paterno did. JMO.</p>

<p>Paterno claims that he was not told specifically what happened in the shower. </p>

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<p>What I don’t understand is why McQueary, a strapping former football player, did not feel compelled to act when he saw a ten year old child being raped by the coach. Why didn’t he step in when he saw what was happening?</p>

<p>Tom…unless it comes out that paterno called legal authorities, then he is morally wrong and scum.</p>

<p>He was told that Sandusky was caught performing anal sex with a 10 year old…HELLOOOO</p>

<p>Does anyone seriously believe that there are only these 8 incidents? Sandusky is a serial child molester,i’d bet a year of PSU tuition that there are dozens of incidents</p>

<p>“Paterno claims that he was not told specifically what happened in the shower.” </p>

<p>I know he claims that. I don’t believe him.</p>

<p>It appears there are no heroes involved in this case.</p>

<p>If Paterno is the control freak I’ve read about, his inability to connect the dots is implausible.</p>

<p>The GA has very poor instincts.</p>

<p>Did the DA believe him? If not why wasn’t he charged?</p>

<p>Nor do I. And I would not be surprised if there were dozens of other victims.</p>

<p>Tom - I appreciate the role you are playing in this discussion. The Duke Lacrosse case should make us all very cautious to jump behind a DAs office and what the media is reporting.</p>

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<p>I think that Penn State should have severed all ties with Sandusky. They could have done that without saying anything publicly. The GA saw what happened, Penn State had every obligation to take a stand. If what they did was hide behind the DAs office, then that is shameful. And I doubt that the DA that handled that case that has since passed was the only one knowledgeable of the case. Surely there were investigators and other ADAs involved in the conversations.</p>

<p>I think that Penn State should have severed all ties with Sandusky- I agree with this</p>

<p>Surely there were investigators and other ADAs involved in the conversations. Yes and I believe we should wait ti hear what they say.</p>

<p>“It appears there are no heroes involved in this case.”</p>

<p>Including Spanier, whose statement only rubbed salt into the wound. He should have reserved judgment.</p>

<p>I’m not sure the GA could be personally charged with any crime in the first place. He reported to his supervisor, and he (apparently) told the truth under oath. Even if you don’t think he acted ethically, there may be no criminal liability.</p>

<p>Also, I think it’s easy to just say all of these guys are scum. Maybe they are, but did a bunch of guys who everybody thought were ethical, admirable role models suddenly turn into scum? Were they really scum all along? Well, maybe Sandusky was, but even he did a lot of things that suggested he was a great guy. I think a little humility is in order in thinking about how any of us would react to a report that somebody we know very well, like a lot, and trust, has done something like this. “It can’t be true.” “There must be some other explanation.” “He’s sick–he needs help.” “This will destroy all the good he’s done–there must be some other way to deal with this.” Etc. To me, it’s perhaps not that shocking that none of these guys immediately picked up the phone and called the police. They should have, and for that they will have to pay–but I always get uncomfortable when it’s suggested that people like this are just scum who are fundamentally different from us. What if they aren’t?</p>

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