Penn State Sandusky scandal

<p>I don’t really see the need to resort to personal attacks over differing opinions…this is how the politics and elections sub category got shut down…just saying</p>

<p>Interesting post on " groupthink " , going my way …thanks !</p>

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<p>I expect the attitude after wins to be “the NCAA tried to stick it to us, but we can overcome the unfairness that was thrown our way”</p>

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<p>They should just say “We Are Penn State” and move on.</p>

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<p>That would be an excellent answer.</p>

<p>lje I don’t know who you are "talking to’ but there are over 7,000 posts and quite a few arrows and darts since the beginning . It generally calms down after a few posts.</p>

<p>Just saw on Twitter: “Penn State fans sending death threats to a running back for leaving Penn State kind of explains what happened at Penn State.”</p>

<p>Not sure what that’s about and hope it is an exaggeration.</p>

<p>MOWC - let’s hope it is a huge exaggeration. Would not be surprised to see a small segment of the student population do some very stupid things, but would hate to see it go this far.</p>

<p>It’s probably adult fans, unfortunately.</p>

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<p>Quite possibly. As I said in an earlier post, after the NCAA sanctions were announced, it was the comments by “adults” that really concerned me. For the most part, the students’ comments were much more realistic and accepting.</p>

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<p>Glad to know I wasn’t the only one going “WTH?!”</p>

<p>goingmyway–good article, I think the groupthink theory really explains Penn State administration. Definitely dehumanized the children/victims to the point where they were never even considered. Also, would kind of explain how they were blinded by trying to “protect Penn State football” and therefore could simply not see how those same actions could destroy it.</p>

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<p>LOL! I think we all were!</p>

<p>I don’t think you can ever really tell who’s saying what on the internet. It could be people pretending to be Penn State students saying horrible stuff on Twitter.</p>

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You don’t think that would come off as having the same self-centered attitude that got Penn State in this whole mess to begin with? As if, We Are Penn State, we don’t care about something that has nothing to do with us. Let’s play ball!</p>

<p>Goingmyway - It all depends on how the line is delivered. Of course it could come across as arrogant and self-centered. And, sadly, that is how some people will interpret it (no matter what). </p>

<p>But it could also be stated with sincerity and pride - pride in the university, its programs (even football), and its accomplishments, and pride in its faculty, alumni, and students (including athletes). </p>

<p>The students need to come together and recognize that they really ARE Penn State and that they cant let the actions of a few arrogant men determine their future.</p>

<p>Idealistic? Yeah, perhaps. But isn’t that part of being a college student?</p>

<p>To me, “We are Penn State” has always been about showing pride in your university, showing pride in your fellow students, and a display of unity - “we’re in this together.”</p>

<p>I think it now has an added meaning of “Yes, bad things happened here but that doesn’t represent our university. We’re not going to let it represent our university, because there is so much more. WE – the 99.9% of the university who had nothing to do with the scandal – are Penn State. And we’re not going to let people who know nothing about this place but what they’ve heard in the last few months take that away from us.” </p>

<p>I see nothing wrong with school spirit. It seems that any student who has the nerve to still love their school or have fun is accused of being arrogant or forgetting about the victims. “We are Penn State” is no different than “Roll Tide!” or any other rallying cry.</p>

<p>Grcxxx3 – you comment back a couple of pages re people wanting to kick others when they are down, I do not think that that is the CC mentality. What I do think is the CC mentality (if there is a predominant group think), is that college academics should be more important than college sports, and if the NCAA sanctions help one or more colleges move in that direction, that’s a good thing. It’s not about kicking PSU, it’s about helping it become a better school, and putting academics first. The faculty at PSU has a golden opportunity, with a monitor there, to see that the ideals of the NCAA are actually put in practice.</p>

<p>^^Agree. Just about every big school has a ralllying cry. For Michigan it’s “Go Blue” which of course is heard at football games since the stadium holds 100,000 but it’s heard all the time about many different things. I suspect Penn State is no different.</p>

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Point well taken. </p>

<p>I was just pointing out how it may be interpreted by others, and perhaps there is a better response to microphones being shoved in their faces, come the first football game.</p>

<p>“We are the new Penn State.” “We are the true Penn State.”</p>