<p>It’s possible that the PSU booster doesn’t live in PA. Which would explain the postal investigation and FBI uncovering the situation. Of course, it doesn’t explain why the witness did not come forward during the trial, or after the plane landed–screaming to police, etc. Maybe a plea deal?</p>
<p>Really this is just sad. And Evil. </p>
<p>I feel badly for the PSU kids that all these new allegations are coming forward as they start school, and thought the worst was past.</p>
<p>Why are you sorry for them? They are obviously part of the culture that enabled/allowed this to happen, along with every member of the faculty, staff and the residents of the area.</p>
<p>no, they are not, 1moremom. They are students that chose a school, and got twisted up in a terrible situation that they did not cause. I feel bad for them because despite all of the “that is what they get for being into football” rhetoric, they are still 18 year old KIDS that have the right to a positive college experience. And never in a million years would have suspected that there was this level of evil happening in the school they chose- even, maybe even especially, if they are not athletes.</p>
<p>[Penn</a> State players react to transfers - The Daily Collegian Online](<a href=“http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2012/08/09/penn_state_players_react_to_transfers.aspx]Penn”>http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2012/08/09/penn_state_players_react_to_transfers.aspx)</p>
<p>“Nine former Penn State players have transferred to other schools in wake of the NCAA’s harsh sanctions against the university. Backup offensive tackle Ryan Nowicki is the only one to depart for a Big Ten team – Illinois.”</p>
<p>“Guys that left, we respect those guys. But it shows your character, when you’re knocked down, who’s going to get up and who’s going to walk away. The guys who are here right now, it show their true character and the person they really are.”
^IMO–This is a ridiculous statement–really, judging someone’s character for transferring out of a corrupted program?</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2012/08/08/zach_bradshaw_and_dorian_johnson_decommit.aspx[/url]”>http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2012/08/08/zach_bradshaw_and_dorian_johnson_decommit.aspx</a></p>
<p>^On Tuesday, Penn State lost two more commitments from its recruiting class of 2013.</p>
<p>“Linebacker prospect Zach Bradshaw backed out of his verbal commitment on Tuesday according to Scout.com. Then, that night, offensive tackle Dorian Johnson left as well according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, leaving the class that had grown to as many as 14 players before NCAA sanctions were handed down two weeks ago to nine.”</p>
<p>So, what about the others? They are ADULTS who chose to work at a university and/or live in a town that obviously cares about nothing as much as it cares about football.</p>
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<p>I think 1moremom is speaking ironically here.</p>
<p>They are KIDS. 18 year old KIDS. Who choose a college for all the reasons the kids on this forum chose colleges: admit rates, finances, distance from home, strength of program, dream school, safety school…</p>
<p>The administration of PSU failed them. Perhaps the failure began when football was allowed to be king on campus. Perhaps it began in 1998 or 2001. Perhaps it began when J. Paterno wouldn’t be fired…or when he became “untouchable”. I don’t know. I don’t think anyone really knows, it’s likely some combination of the above.</p>
<p>I do know that the freshman who are trying to pack, the upperclassman who are returning, the nearly graduated seniors didn’t do this. It is the nature of the NCAA to punish a program for past mistakes, so scholarships/bowl games, etc are impacted. But generally speaking, students are not faced with attending a school that is reeling, and continues to have new horrors revealed. So I feel sad for them.</p>
<p>And what about the faculty and staff? Would you say the administration failed them as well? They chose the school for the opportunities to pursue their careers, do their research, teach the students.</p>
<p>1moremom…are you asking if I feel sorry for the faculty and staff?</p>
<p>At this point, my mind is on the victims and the students.</p>
<p>18 year olds r not kids.</p>
<p>I am saying that many of the faculty and staff are in the same spot as the students. They had nothing to with what went on at the highest levels of administration, they have zero interest in football, and yet they are being painted with the same brush as those who covered up the abuse, those who still adore Paterno and seem to care only about football.</p>
<p>What is the likelihood of PSU losing it’s accreditation and if it were to happen how will that affect current students?</p>
<p>I would guess that it is unlikely.</p>
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<p>[Accreditor</a> Warns Penn State Over Handling of Sex-Abuse Scandal - Government - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“http://chronicle.com/article/Accreditor-Warns-Penn-State/133621/]Accreditor”>http://chronicle.com/article/Accreditor-Warns-Penn-State/133621/)</p>
<p>"And what about the faculty and staff? Would you say the administration failed them as well? They chose the school for the opportunities to pursue their careers, do their research, teach the students. "</p>
<p>It would be nice if they had the guts to say so.</p>
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<p>As a faculty member at a different large, football obsessed university I feel for the students AND the faculty and staff at Penn State. They had nothing to do with this (even those who were attracted to PSU because they love football). What happened there was not caused in ANY way by the students, faculty, and staff (except those few who WERE involved - Sandusky, Paterno, Spannier, and those 2 other clowns whose names I forget - plus, I’m guessing a few others we don’t know about at this point.)</p>
<p>I have no problem with the football team’s punishment (although I feel for the current players who, again, had nothing to do with this mess) but faculty and staff work there because it is a good university with good students NOT because they want to go to football games. (If it’s anything like my university, very few faculty members ever go to a game and many couldn’t tell you the names of any of the players - it’s just not a part of our everyday lives.) Those faculty members should not be tainted because of the actions (or inactions) of a few.</p>
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<p>Exactly, inthebiz. </p>
<p>And I think that this action by the commission was a warning shot at PSU. A warning to clean their house, control the inappropraite actions of the board and admin, and follow rules/laws/ and acceptable behavior. As I said before, I believe that this is an action that will assist PSU admin to put a lid on the actions of board members that want to go after the NCAA and current president. At least I hope it does.</p>
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<p>To say what? Do you want them to apologize? Would you have them all in sackcloth and ashes? They are as appalled by the whole thing as anyone, but why do they need to speak out? They had nothing to do with the scandal, beyond than the guilt by association you and others have convicted them of.</p>
<p>1moremom - I don’t know exactly what the correct response by faculty, students, or alumni should be, but it seems it should be something more than a shrug and saying “Hey, that had nothing to do with me.”</p>
<p>The problem is there is a sense that they are trying to have it both ways. Penn State people vigorously reject any “guilt by association.” Okay, but very many of them were, for decades, perfectly happy to accept glory by association or merit by association. Perfectly happy to bask in the reflected glory and acclaim that Paterno and the football program brought to the school. Back them I didn’t hear many Penn Staters rejecting the good the football success brought them. No one was shouting “Hey, that has nothing to do with me” back then. </p>
<p>Add this to scenes of students rioting when Paterno got fired, students and boosters still fiercely defending “JoePa,” and whining about the Freeh report and the NCAA sanctions. Add to that the observation there are apparently close to zero students or faculty publicly condemning Paterno or embracing the NCAA sanctions as part of a needed reform. Toss in a few rousing public rounds of the “We are!..Penn State!” football cheer, and outside observers are left with the distinct impression that many at the school still, after all this, don’t “get it.”</p>
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<p>Hey, that is one the NCAA did not impose. It would not have been a bad idea to make that sackcloth the mandatory uniform for the PSU football staff for 14 years.</p>
<p>On a serious note, although it amounts to mostly wishful thinking, objective observers might have expected a modicum of contrition instead of all the arrogance and bravado that has been displayed so far in Happy Valley. </p>
<p>As I wrote many times, by the time the kicker puts in foot in that pigskin on the gridiron, most will have put the entire issue behind them, and yell “We are …Penn State” from the top of their lungs. By Christmas, they will say “What was that all about?” And except for the one who can also say “I am in State Penn” all will be forgotten by 2013! </p>
<p>Unless a real set of penalties emerge in the future. Not the slap on the wrist that was negotiated by the NCAA and the school.</p>
<p>I would have liked to see faculty member(s) make some type of statement renouncing the actions of Spanier, Paterno, Curley and Schultz especially after the Freeh report. We are talking about integrity here and this is a teachable moment. All I have seen is defense and complaints by a faculty member. Where is their integrity? They are not responsible for what happened, but where is their voice? Where do they stand? Are they fine with the actions of those four, because that is what it appears.</p>