Penn State Sandusky scandal

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Righto, moonchild.</p>

<p>Looks like everyone wants to wait and see if they will be fired instead of just immediately resigning, because they don’t to “look like they are accepting responsibility”.</p>

<p>Part of a letter sent to the football recruits, and signed by Mike McQueary:</p>

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<p>Read more: [Penn</a> State needs to fire Mike McQueary, Tim Curely amid scandal - Andy Staples - SI.com](<a href=“http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/11/10/penn-state-mike-mcqueary/index.html#ixzz1dQCQAW8h]Penn”>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/11/10/penn-state-mike-mcqueary/index.html#ixzz1dQCQAW8h)</p>

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<p>It took several months to impeach Nixon, not 3 days. And he still had a helicoper to fly his family out of the the White House.</p>

<p>Paterno was a father-figure to McQuery. He set the example. He’s the one who harbored the pedophile, his close friend, and served on his board. McQuery should have followed up on his report. Perhaps he did, and Big Daddy told him it was “being handled”.</p>

<p>“Success with Honor”.</p>

<p>Mini, you sound angry about this. Is that a hint of sarcasm I detect?</p>

<p>perhaps- that could be true</p>

<p>I wonder how differently this case and all the players would be thought about – if at all – if McQueary had walked in on Sandusky raping a 10 yo girl.</p>

<p>Canyon Creek:</p>

<p>That was a nicely written article and I understand the emotion. I agree completely that McQueary was not a hero, but I think that you take your condemnation of McQueary too far. Not being a hero does not render him a complete failure as a human being. He did not completely fail because he, in fact, reported it. Had he failed to do that, we would not have been discussing his other failures. The risk of stepping up are probably why too many people would simply turn the other way and not get involved at all. McQueary did not just let it slide. He did report it. </p>

<p>I don’t criticize him for reporting to Paterno rather than the police. Reporting the event to the legend of the campus should have resulted in the University handling the case appropriately. </p>

<p>I disagree with putting the entire blame on McQueary because he was the witness. The men in power above him do not deserve a pass simply because they did not see it - they were told and they needed to step up to support McQueary. When they failed to do so (I don’t know all of the facts but it certainly appears that they failed to do so), McQueary should have done more. Failing to do more is not failing to do anything. What did the people to whom McQueary reported do with the information? Did they do anything at all?</p>

<p>coolweather-
Not sure what your point is about the several months to impeach nixon or use of the helicopter. Can you clarify? There were at least 2 other examples of college/university presidents being ousted after a scandal.</p>

<p>I can almost get my head around the delays in calling the police or believing someone else had done it although I far from approve and I certainly would like to think I would respond differently. What I in no way can understand is how Penn State allowed Sandusky to run his program using Penn State facilities, have Penn State employees on the board, and welcomed him to Penn State football activities after the initial allegations. For the lawyers out there … if Penn State big wigs knew about the earlier allegations and then allowed the camp on Penn State grounds and more kids were molested … then are the school and the officials who knew legally or civilly liable for those later molestation events?</p>

<p>I think they’re worried about violence at the game.</p>

<p>Pizzagirl, Interesting. I don’t know. I think the main issue was with the perpetrator though, not the victim.</p>

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Well said!!</p>

<p>jym - Is there any difference between firing someone instantly and firing someone through a long debate?
About helicopter: just a joke.</p>

<p>It is very difficult to understand evil men. Sandusky I get. He’s sick, he’s driven by compulsions (you can call them inner demons if you like) that he can’t control, and puts his life, career, family, and friends at risk in their service. He needs to be put away, probably for life, not to “punish” him (his inner punishment is likely already very great, and being put behind bars might be a relief), but to protect the rest of us.</p>

<p>But the evil of Paterno I don’t entirely understand, and I find that scarier. (So I guess that makes me angry.) Assuming (as I said) that he isn’t dumb, that he doesn’t suffer from dementia, and that he is a good judge of character, and a charismatic father-figure to all, how he could let this fester for so long is beyond me. Supposing that in 2002 he did report it up the chain…you mean he didn’t want to know the result? He still wanted Sandusky to have an office in his facility, to conduct camps at Penn State, and to serve on Sandusky’s board? How could he be so brazen?</p>

<p>As Barrons said, I think Paterno’s scum, and of the sane players in this tragedy by far the worst actor, but I’m wrestling to understand him.</p>

<p>Not only that, he went to one of the victim’s schools and took him out of class, allegedly. How did he get away with that? Because he’s from PSU?</p>

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<p>Took him out of school without mom giving him permission to. This is according to the interview mom did on TV this morning. That sounds like the school really stepped out of bounds on that one too…I can’t even pick up my own child here without an ID!</p>

<p>Yes, we have to authorize in writing anyone picking up our children at school.</p>

<p>Just to be clear–I in no way feel that McQueary deserves all the blame. not at all. it’s just that this is the part of the discussion here that most puzzled me–I get the Paterno admiration and how it clouds some people’s minds even though I don’t share it in anyway–i see how that motivates some people. And I understand the different takes on legal and/or ethical culpability, and though I have my own opinions, I get that others see the complicated situations differently. but i don’t get the excusing of someone from saving a child–that part seems so humanly clear, so that that’s the one place I don’t see how there’s any room for discussion.</p>

<p>Whether or not any one of us would have done the right thing is not germaine–the fact is that not doing so is inexcusably wrong. All the discussion of ‘why’ he didn’t act doesn’t change that.</p>