<p>Glad this got resolved…and so glad you were persistent.</p>
<p>The guy was a TOTAL PERV ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! HIKE UP THE DRESSES TO SHOW THE SOCKS…HELLOOOOOOOOOO. I am always amazed when parents and other teachers or administrators think its impossible that a teacher or principal is a DEGENERATE! We are taught to report creeps as we grow up but if you report a teacher and as a result get bad grades or it somehow affects your relationship with other teachers at school and they give you trouble that seems to be ok. Honestly nobody cares the system does NOT protect the kids no matter what everybody says.
TRUST ME ON THIS ONE - THIS GUY IS PERVERTED- CHECK HIS COMPUTER AND I BET HE S A REAL SICKO! SHOW ME YOUR SOCKS UNDER YOUR DRESSES HELLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!</p>
<p>Just came upon this thread, and bravo, Binx! </p>
<p>As a choir mom, I know that my kid has performed many times wearing cut-off sweats under her gown because the churches where she sang were freezing. I have no idea if this was OK with the choir master because, as a man who knew what constituted appropriate versus grossly inappropriate behavior, he never looked up the young ladies’ dresses!!! </p>
<p>I wonder about the girls in the orchestra feeling embarrassed or uncomfortable about not having said no. If the school has a competent counselor, and is willing to fully own up to the implications of what the orchestra director did to the girls, perhaps it would be a good idea for the counselor to orchestrate an all-girl discussion to help them deal with the emotional sequellae of the situation and maybe role play ways they might deal with situations like this (e.g. male in authority asks you to do something that makes you feel uncomfortable and seems a bit squirrely.) in future. This would also serve to give the girls the message that what happened to them was wrong and the school does not endorse adult males demanding to look up their skirts for no apparent reason. (And I do mean that. If you couldn’t see the footwear at calf or hip length from the audience, there is no possible, decent reason for this guy to be forcing young girls to hike up their dresses. In public, between too concerts when they’re already tense and too afraid of him to say no; it’s disgusting.) </p>
<p>It would also be very nice for the school to provide a forum in which the girls could address their feelings and concerns to the orchestra director himself in a polite but direct way, say with the counselor or principal present to support them so that the guy wouldn’t be able lose control in an ugly way without repercussions. </p>
<p>And last but not least, an apology would be in order. </p>
<p>I hope I don’t seem to be making too big a deal of this, but to my mind, putting young girls in a position in which they acquiesce to a male authority stepping over the line and making them reveal their bodies in an atmosphere of coersion and disrespect is a very big deal.</p>
<p>Binx, congratulations on seeing this through and winning an acceptable resolution. </p>
<p>Also would like to echo CCSurfer - not just young ladies, but EVERYONE could probably benefit from practicing saying “no” or at least saying “wait a minute” - or perhaps closely questioning and clarifying requests for information from persons in temporary or permanent authority positions - this includes filling out forms for various things such as credit, etc. that ask questions that have no basis related to the business at hand; the clerk behind the cash register who asks for email address or telephone number at point of purchase, the car salesman who asks for a drivers license at the START of a discussion, claiming it’s because of the USA Patriot Act, or the person telephoning to take a college survey, and so on. </p>
<p>All of these things ranging from “what is your occupation” to “phone number please” to “please fill out this form” to “please lift your skirt” are requests for information about us that the inquirer does not need and/or is not entitled to have, or that there is no business case to support. We should all be a LOT more diligent about resisting this stuff - just because someone in authority makes a request does NOT mean we should comply, at least not without clarification about the purpose and precedent related to the request. </p>
<p>It’s far easier to decline to comply on the front end than to correct after the fact.</p>