<p>“toneranger, I spent a little time looking at pacheight’s past posts”</p>
<p>^^that’s creepy</p>
<p>I thought it was interesting that some of the posters thought Rhodes and Yale were more similar than different. it turns out that people didn’t really mean that as the more recent comments are about how the students are different or how earlier comments were maybe not so accurate, and that there is such a thing as “better”. And it turns out that Rhodes is one of those expensive shiny names you pay 40k a year (or someone pays). And people are very proud to pay to send their kids to Rhodes, because it is a good school! But that doesn’t mean there’s isn’t a big difference. So, I guess the big deal here is that I’m talking about schools and many of you are relating it to a specific person.</p>
<p>it’s seems that Rhodes is pretty sacred here, there’s a difference in talking about schools vs talking about someone’s kid. And I’m talking about school differences (and kids only when it comes to aggregate stats because that’s one of the biggest factors in educational quality).As far as individuals, I’ve said several times above it sounds like this young lady is an amazing person!</p>
<p>step back for a second and realize where this young lady is going to grad school, it is the school that I’m promoting or defending here, Yale!</p>
<p>pacheight, IMO the backlash you’re getting is due to your lack of sense of time and place. It’s not that Rhodes or any other school is necessarily some sacred cow here and it’s not that people haven’t had this same exact discussion time and time again here on CC. It’s that you’d never say these things face to face to someone whose own kid chose Rhodes over Yale - so why on earth would you do it on a thread which had become mostly dedicated to <em>congratulating</em> a long time poster’s child? You are the one who made it personal in that sense. </p>
<p>If you had really wanted to talk “schools” and “merit aid over full freight” and not zone in on “someone’s kid” IMO this was not the time, place or thread to do it on.</p>
<p>Search function is a *****, huh? Feel free to go through my gazillion posts and mine all the stupid crap I’ve said over the years. There should be a mountain of it by now.</p>
<p>If there is to be matchmaking here on CC, there need to be guidelines. Can there be “intertier” dating? Do we bid on behalf of our kids to reaches, matches and safeties? Will there be an application profile with their stats?</p>
<p>I guess I’m pretty creepy, too, because I frequently look at posting history to get a sense of where someone might be coming from OR if the poster is really who he represents himself to be. We have certainly had our share of students claiming to be parents or 9th graders claiming to be getting ready for the LSAT…</p>
<p>Oh, dear. I think my two Ss will need safeties, especially the financial kind, as they are unlikely to strike it rich!
Other desiderata: urban location; must like snow…</p>
<p>Once again, no one claimed that Rhodes is the same as Yale; and certainly no one said it was the same as Yale for every student.
At Rhodes, however, many of the top students turned down HYPSMC for a variety of reasons, including financial. There are enough of them to form a critical mass that makes their educational experience not too dissimilar to what they would have experienced at HYPSM, especially when it comes to classroom discussions.
As for the profs, they pretty much come from the same graduate programs. The same factors that cause top students to be spread widely among colleges also cause Ph.D.s from top programs to be spread among a very wide variety of colleges. One person I met last year turned down a job at MIT to stay in Idaho for family reasons. Another turned down a job at a major university near Boston to stay at a far less prestigious one because he could not sell his house.
It was important for Mudgette’s success that she had access to resources at St Jude’s, one of the top research hospitals in the country. That would not have been the case if she had attended, say, Williams or Amherst.
In other words, in terms of peers, profs, and resources, it seems to me Mudgette did pretty well.
I never knew about Rhodes until Mudgette had to make a choice between it and Yale (and some other schools). I have come to realize that some colleges would enjoy greater name recognition if they were located on the East Coast. Rhodes and Sewanee are definitely on that list.</p>
<p>rosh, sorry about that, I actually didn’t know I was in the middle of a congrats party, I saw a bunch of posts about weather up front, then 200 posts later people were having these comparison discussions, and I responded to this quote about “what’s the difference…aka little difference”…and I did not read all 200+ posts:)</p>
<p>would I say to someone face to face in the middle of a congrats party something argumentative about their kids school, no. but I didn’t know I was in the middle of a party.</p>
<p>but you gotta admit the reaction and mentality of this guys posts including the one where he editorializes and changes my comments from my earlier posts (which go back months meaning he studied them for quite sometime) is well, creepy. I think that behavior in an adult is pretty telling…</p>
<p>and I know I don’t want to meet this person face to face although I am on Yale’s campus often, and will be for years to come.</p>
<p>pacheights, In your world where standardized test scores are the “be all” and “end all” of a college student’s value to a campus, would a 2290 SAT kid be necessarily a lesser student than a 60 point higher scoring kid? Would that 60 points be enough an intelligence gap to make that 2290 kid a weight around the necks of her smarter “others” in class? Dead weight to lug around - class after class, day after dreary day? Would it significantly detract from the experience of others? Would folks look at her and ask… How’d she get in anyway? Was she some sort of jock/development admit? </p>
<p>Does 60 or so points on a standardized test really impress you that much? <pssst. hint:=“” answer=“” carefully.=“” ;)=“”></pssst.></p>
<p>Quite some time? Took me 10-15 minutes. Tops. You must read slowly. There was so many juicy ones to choose from so I just left the rest for later. Pretty fertile field you left for me. Thanks. There’s crazy fruit all over place. ;)</p>
<p>Pick a paraphrase and I’ll post where I got it. Just give me a little time, I have clients this afternoon.</p>
<p>Yeah, you gotta watch that search function…I think it was Curm that posted a link to all my prior posts a couple of years back. Freaked me out! But I got over it…really no big deal. On a board like this, I am what I say. What else is there? </p>
<p>Re Rhodes…as a NE native, I will say that it doesn’t qualify as a shiny brand school around here. That said, I do know a couple of students who are considering it - and those students tend to be thoughtful serious students who are looking for a certain type experience (which usually doesn’t include big-time sports!). </p>
<p>What is annoying are folks who think they are superior because of their circumstances or choices. Yes, overall Yale is a better school academically. No arguments. But I think it’s entirely possible for a bright motivated student to have a BETTER experience at a school that is lower ranked…especially one that has a core group of terrific students. I think it’s crazy to feel sorry for students who get into HYP and go somewhere else. Yes, these kids ARE amazing and can do terrific things in many different places. And have a top notch quality experience too. And the ones who get merit dollars can save LOTS of money to enrich their lives in other ways. And many of them do. I think it’s VERY COOL…in fact THESE are the kids I envy.</p>
<p>toneranger, :eek: I think it was in response to something about internet anonymity, wasn’t it? I don’t think it was mean-spirited, just trying to show how it’s done. (Gee, at least I hope so. ) But I think I remember the freak-out. Apologies and I’m really glad you got over it.
I agree.
Now me? I’m too dumb to lie and get away with it…but I know my intellectual limitations so I just tell the truth. Works for me.</p>
<p>I y’am what I y’am. Toot!Toot! (A very adult Popeye reference, in case anybody was wondering. ;))</p>
<p>My son in law did something similar for undergrad. He was accepted to Duke, but with med school as the end goal, he accepted the free ride at Loyola New Orleans. He has no regrets at all. He did choose a state (in-state for him) med school and is now a doc in a prestigious residency program.</p>
<p>no worries curm, just part of my education on this board. An eye opener for sure. Now I post all sort of silly things about myself and requests for info but stay away from my son for the most part. Hard to reign it in though. I always think about that advice to not put anything in writing that you don’t want in the NYTimes!</p>
<p>First lesson to be learned on CC – Everything you write can and will he held against you ;)</p>
<p>curmudgeon - my heartiest congratulations to your daughter. She is truly living the dream!
Someday she will be in one of those Rhodes viewbooks listed as “Notable Alumni”!</p>
Feel free to go through my gazillion posts and mine all the stupid crap I’ve said over the years. There should be a mountain of it by now.</p>
) But I think I remember the freak-out. Apologies and I’m really glad you got over it.