<p>My issue with pacheight’s posts have been the statements about “higher quality” undergraduate education and experience at Yale versus Rhodes. </p>
<p>On most objective comparisons, Rhodes (and regional LAC’s like Rhondes) is not similar to Yale (and other tippy tops). And, the undergraduate education and experience are not similar, for most kids. “Different” is not the same as “higher quality”</p>
<p>For a student where the fit is right, they will get a “high quality” education and experience at either location. And…for a student where the fit is wrong, all of the wonderful resources, opportunities and faculty at Yale will not provide a “high quality” education or experience. </p>
<p>No need to further repeat what I’ve said in prior posts on this topic…back to the matchmaking. Much more entertaining.</p>
<p>The Sarkozy league? Isn’t his wife a former nude model/stripper/groupie or something? Yeah, he might have married up in the looks department but otherwise…</p>
<p>My D has a thing for redheads. Any carrot top sons out there?</p>
<p>Well, CB was born with a silver spoon or two in her mouth (one from her biological father and the other from her putative one), so she’s a financial safety as well as a reach! :).</p>
<p>My kids (who had the stats for an ivy but so do many applicants who are rejected) chose LACs for the experience. A college experience is not especially about the stats of your classmates. Compare class sizes at Rhodes to the UG classes at Yale. Compare availability of professors.</p>
<p>Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh about Sewanee, saving that one for my 10 year old niece! My sis and I both wish we could have gone to school there.</p>
<p>As far as match-making “son that makes me crazy” is up for grabs…he’s the one that was enthralled with princeton’s “special” EC of EATING clubs. A school club for eating. Thought he died and went to food heaven, and he is no foodie! Well at least he wasn;t when he matriculated!</p>
<p>He does have the slower southern drawl and the constant “yes sir, no ma’m”. And yep he would be FURIOUS if he knew I was schlepping him out!</p>
<p>But buyer beware, he still has the ability to make me nuts on a daily basis…</p>
<p>Fixed that for you … “I have come to realize that some colleges would enjoy greater name recognition on the East Coast if they were located on the East Coast.” </p>
<p>Just like Williams or Swarthmore or Amherst might enjoy greater name recognition on the West Coast if they were located on the West Coast.</p>
<p>Greater name recognition is all about regionality.</p>
<p>Hahahahah! Wait, what, sounds so familiar! </p>
<p>Max, my daughter works in New Jersey now, outside of Princeton. She comes into NYC for fun with friends sometimes. She is no longer involved with her college boyfriend. I’m a mother. What else do you need to know? Other than the fact that I have NOT cleared this with her and most likely she would kill me…</p>
<p>S-o-o-o-o… this is the thread where all of the old-timers hang out.</p>
<p>Hola to all! Felicidades a Senorita Mudge!</p>
<p>pacheight, your notions are so High School Cafe. We have been over, under around and through them far too many times to find them the least bit persuasive. You will find many more folks to agree with you over on the Chances threads.</p>
<p>I have to say that the content and tone of your posts (on this thread alone, I haven’t surfed your other “contributions” to cc) have me wondering at the notion that you are the parent, not the kid. And yes, many of us peruse a member’s past posts to get an accurate feel of the poster.</p>
<p>For the life of me I couldn’t figure out why this thread had such longevity. Surely the posters must have found a way out of Philadelphia by now. LOL!</p>
<p>Ah, but that snowstorm has such significance!! Mudgette made it to Yale that night; my son stayed in a Philly hotel and took Amtrak to Yale next day. Son also got stuck at Philly another weekend when trying to get to CMU, and then again, had to leave Princeton via Newark, then Charlotte, then back to CA. End result, with fabulous acceptances (including MIT), will probably stay in CA for grad school!!!</p>
<p>Hellno. No FA packages yet and she really should look at those before making assumptions and certainly before letting those assumptions guide her decision. The amount her parents will pay can’t change as it will be all we can possibly do and we’ll pay it wherever she goes. (IOW, the difference in cost, whatever it is, will be 100% hers in the form of loans) She has been pretty tight-lipped about her leanings but very open about what others (her peers) are telling her to do. </p>
<p>The sides appear even and firmly entrenched. 1) debt doesn’t matter enough, go to Yale for the experience (not just the prestige- she says the students and their extracurricular activities are amazing), (slightly but appreciably) better residency outcomes in competitive fields, better pedigree for academic medicine 2) debt matters enough, go to UT-SW on scholarship, still great rep for residency and academic medicine, and you want to be in Texas long-term anyway.</p>
<p>A friend of hers is wrestling with the same decision (UT-SW on scholarship but substitute Penn for Yale) except she wants to stay in the Northeast for her career. She is leaning toward UT-SW. Another UT-SW admitted student (no scholarship that I’m aware of) got into Cornell-Weill and is not looking back. She’s NYC bound.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago Yale realized that the same middle-class realities that were keeping kids from Yale University were keeping the same kids out of YMS and instituted a “middle-class initiative” similar to the one at UG. </p>
<p>I’ve always felt that the difference between 2006 FA at Yale and 2007 FA at Yale may have been enough to sway her to Yale for UG. In 2006 there were 4-5 items where she/we asked Yale to consider using their “professional judgment/discretion”. We were 0 for-ever. </p>
<p>The way the middle-class initiative reads suggests that if a student’s parents make what we make (even after you add losses and depreciation back in, which they are sure to do) there should be generous grant aid available to her. But ,unfortunately and somewhat predictably, there is a qualifying phrase that says (paraphrasing) “if parental assets are in keeping with that income level”. That may sink the FA ship. Again. Like many folks with an expensive house they’ve owned for years and purchased at 1/4 current value (and in no way could afford today), the ranch we live on (sheltered under FAFSA) may well be the torpedo aimed at her hull. </p>
<p>I’m hopeful but …who knows? She really does feel comfortable with UT-SW and Baylor College of Medicine as far as the students , the lifestyle, and the quality of the programs but Yale is the clear leader. So…we’ll have to see.</p>
<p>Hey back. Alu… Curm… and all other old-timers.</p>
<p>Not meaning to ignore the rest of y’all (I only talk that way when under the influence of curmudgeon :))… but some of us have kids long beyond college admissions and only rarely see other around cc-town anymore.</p>
<p>I had hoped that the Philadelphia Story… er, snowstorm… would land mudgerella in Phila. Where DS is… sort of. He lives and works outside Phila, theoretically, but has spent more time travelling on business to Florida over the last many months. He is s-o-o-o over Florida and I expect will be more so as summer weather makes its appearance.</p>