<p>I have to write a persuasive paper for English class on the prompt “Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life”-Confucius.
I have to write a 5 body paragraph paper with the first paragraph a concession. My concession is about how teachers love their jobs but still have to work hard. I want to disagree with the quote, but I dont know what to write about. I want to say that jobs do feel work, and it doesnt matter whether you love your job. My thesis statement is, even though people may love their jobs, they may still consider jobs hard work because of lack of talent, not enough money (another word) , and lack of skills or education. But I need an attention grabber for my Introduction. I dont know what to write for the attention grabber. I need two other supports for my talent paragraph: for example if your have no talent something, but you love it, it is still hard work. I need supports for my 3rdparagraph on financial, for example-musicians and how some of them cant earn enough to support themselves but love music. I need two supports for my fourth paragraph about how you might need special skills or education in your job and that is more hard work. For example- Scientists need certain degrees. I dont know what to write for my conclusion; I am just lost in this paper. I just want to disagree with the quote, and figure supports on if youre in job you love, you still have to work hard. PLEASE HELP ME>></p>
<p>Your point hinges on what is “work”?</p>
<p>Confucius thinks a labor of love feels like no labor at all. You think that a labor of love can still be back breaking, difficult, onerous.</p>
<p>You have plents of good examples to argue this. I would think a professional athlete or some sort of physical labor might be another one, where there is literally back-breaking work that gets done. Also an artist who is scaling the mountain of his own imagination /inspiration (or lack thereof) each day.</p>
<p>Then again, anyone doing a hard job they don’t love would be in worse shape than another person doing the same job but loving it.</p>
<p>SBMom gave you really good advice. You could similarly analyze, what does it mean to “love” a job? I might hate the work but love the people. Hate the people but love the money. Not care about the money but love the tasks. So you can “love” a job, if you define love narrowly, and still have to work hard every day.</p>
<p>Humans are quite savvy, Columbia. They don’t often choose to love difficult jobs–or people. :)</p>
<p>A person who loves their job usually has the talent and the smarts to do the job. That satisfaction is part and parcel of the loving bit; ie “I love my job because I am so darn good at it! Woo hoo for me!”</p>
<p>You are a very creative thinker, and a bit of a devil’s advocate. I hope you consider Law or Philosophy for your major…</p>
<p>Thesis statment: Even though people may love their jobs, they still consider the jobs hard work beacause of lack of talent, finacial security, and necessary educational background.</p>
<p>Introduction/attention grabber-dont know yet</p>
<p>Concession- Admittedly, some working people like teachers do love their jobs, and enjoy working with students. Yet, no matter how much teachers and others love their jobs, they are still working hard.</p>
<p>2nd paragraph(lack of talent)
Topic sentence- Even if a job is fun, it can feel like work if a person is not talented at what they are doing.
- hard work-If you have no talent. For example, many kids think just because they love bball they will be the next Michael Jordan. It takes more than the love of your work, so more hard work if you dont have the talent.
- dont know yet
- dont know yet</p>
<p>3rd paragraph(finacial security)
Topic sentence- Also, many other jobs that people enjoy doing do not pay well, so people have to work even harder.
- Muscians or people who want to be in music industry. More hard work because some muscians out there dont have enough money to support themselves.–>so more hard work
- Doctors–>high cost of medical school, more hard work because you have to work to pay.
- dont know yet</p>
<p>4th paragraph(necessary education background)
Topic sentence- It does feel live work if a person doesn’t have the necessary education background.
- Lawyer
- Don’t know yet
3.Don’t know yet</p>
<p>Conclusion-Dont know yet. </p>
<p>Anyway, the quote of Conucius says that if you are in a job you love then it won’t seem like hard work because you are having fun. So for my paper I could disagree or agree. I chose to disagree because of financial, lack of talent, necessary education background. So I need more supports in the areas that I said dont know yet. So the whole point is to give examples of how even if you love your job it still seems like hard work if you dont have talent,money,education. Arrgh I hate writing papers.</p>
<p>Perhaps you are having trouble with your thesis because two of the arguments do not make as much sense as the argument about financial security.</p>
<p>For example, a person can only LOVE a basketball job if they have a career like Michael Jordon? Or is it possible to love a job as the basketball coach of an elemenatry school? Your reasoning is not strong enough.</p>
<p>Also, the example of undereducated lawyer is unclear.</p>
<p>Have you considered developing three reasons why finances would impact a person’s ability to love a job? You have two–loving a low paying career (common) and loving a job you don’t have the stamina for (also common). There is a third possiblity: loving a job you can no longer afford to do (expanding family, unforeseen expenses, paycut).</p>
<p>By lack talent, I mean like alot kids think I love bball so I am going to the next Michael Jordan. They love their work so much, but dont realize it is going to be hard work. I don’t maybe basketball is not good example. It is suppose to be about how if you dont have talent then you have to put in more work. Also the Lawyer one,is about people who love Law, and think that the career is going to be easy ,but if the dont have the necessary education background then it inputs more work. I dont know, I give up.</p>
<p>You’d probably be able to develop your arguments better if you used a search engine to do some research on what causes people to love their jobs. I think you’re having problems writing because your thesis is based on your gut feelings, not on facts or examples. I also think that if you did some basic research, you’d find that people actually love tasks that play to their strengths and that are doable with a moderate amount of effort. Donald Clifton was an industrial organizational psychologist who did a lot of research into matching people with jobs that they could do well and enjoyably. Try using a search engine to find some of his research. It’s very interesting and relevant to what you’re writing.</p>
<p>I think people who love their jobs tend to love their jobs because they see the fruits of their labor. Many people who love their jobs may not equate wealth in the terms of dollars and cents .</p>
<p>Using some of the scenarios you have mentioned, Michael Jordan may love his job because he is at the pinnacle of his career. He may love it because he works with others and as a result they win games, that help to beuild a sense of spirit and pride (certainly in chicago).</p>
<p>Teachers may love their jobs because they want to be an agent for positive change in the lives of children. There is a sense of pride in knowing that you have been a contributor in th elife of the next noble prize winner, that you have been the inspiration for someone to stay in this race a little longer.</p>
<p>From;
LOVE 'EM OR LOSE 'EM: Retaining Talented Employees</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.leadershipadvantage.com/retainingTalentedEmployees.shtml[/url]”>http://www.leadershipadvantage.com/retainingTalentedEmployees.shtml</a></p>
<p>In 1999 the Hay Group studied more than 500,000 employees in 300 companies. They found that of 50 retention factors, pay was the least important. Other studies bring up similar lists of the 10 most important reasons people want to stay with a company.</p>
<ol>
<li>Career growth, learning and development</li>
<li>Exciting, challenging work</li>
<li>Meaningful work, ability to make a difference and a contribution</li>
<li>Great people</li>
<li>Being part of a team</li>
<li>Good boss</li>
<li>Recognition for work well done</li>
<li>Autonomy, a sense of control over one’s work</li>
<li>Flexible hours and dress</li>
<li>Fair pay and benefits</li>
</ol>
<p>Maybe I am confused or just dont understand, or I am just slow. But my point of the paper is to show jobs that ppl love are still work due to lack of talent…etc. I disagreeing with what Confucius said. I wan’t to say that ppl who love their jobs and consider it fun, and not work. I believe that it is work when you dont have lack of talent…my three supports.That what my paper is suppose to be about. I need Introuduction, attention grabber. I have been working at this for three days, and I have come up with nothing, my teacher was no help. The worse thing about it, the first Draft is due tommorw…Lord Help me.</p>
<p>Another factor re:job enjoyment is the frequency of success vs failure at accomplishing goals. A teacher who (by virtue of mismatch of skills, lack of resources, disinterested student, etc.) has a low rate of success may very well experience his /her job as excrutiating at times despite “loving” the job.</p>
<p>Since you do not have that much time, you can use what you have and develop it properly. You need to first define what you think “work” is as
opposed to what Confucius thinks it is in your introduction, otherwise you have no premise to base your argument on.</p>
<p>Once you define what “work” is then you can use your 1. your lack of talent example and show how that person has to “work” according to your definition but still loves his job. You also have to explain the aspect of the job that he loves.</p>
<p>I do not understand your financial security example and your lack of education example is the same concept as the lack of talent.</p>
<p>Maybe, you can use an example where the person loves his job but it is labor intensive, eg construction worker. He has to “work” according to your definition. Again, you have to explain how he is working and what aspect of the job he loves.</p>
<p>Another example could be that the person loves his job and has the talent but has to work hard to keep his job because his job is competitve - example, an athlete in some big league. Show how he has to “work” according to your definition and explain how he is deriving his pleasure or “love” for his job.</p>
<p>You get my drift. If what I am saying doesn’t make much sense, it is because I too just finished two long papers. Damn these teachers!!</p>
<p>" I am just slow. But my point of the paper is to show jobs that ppl love are still work due to lack of talent"</p>
<p>THe problem is that your thesis isn’t true. Everything I have read indicates that job satisfaction is due to things such as having meaningful work, and/or an attainable challenge that utilizes one’s skills. </p>
<p>You seem to be assuming that jobs become work when people lack the skills or talent to do them. One can have plenty of skills/talent to do a job, but that doesn’t mean that one will love the job. For instance, I once saw a woman whose job it was to place one sheet of brown paper on a top of a bundle of newspapers as they went through a conveyor belt. </p>
<p>She certainly had the skills to do that easy job. Since she appeared to have at least normal intelligence, I would be surprised if she loved that boring job. Think about it: Would you love a job like that even if you were getting wonderful pay for it? You might love the pay, but after a few minutes, you’d probably detest the job, and I bet it certainly would feel like hard work.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, since you like theater, it might be time-consuming to learn a part and to be in a play, but you might take great enjoyment in doing so, so that might feel more like fun or play than hard work for you. </p>
<p>In additon, your thesis indicates that jobs are hard work only when people lack the talent for it. Presumably, however, professional athletes and professionals such as surgeons have the talent for their jobs. Does this mean, however, that they never work hard or experience their work as difficult?</p>
<p>Another possible tack to take…</p>
<p>People may love their career, but still find the actual job to be work at times. This may not be just due to lack of skills or training, but due to the fact that jobs are not one-dimensional; rather, they have many parts. This may come either from natural requirements of the job, or from things added on by law or those in charge.</p>
<p>A writer may love to come up with creative story lines, but dislike the necessary rewriting, or hate the job of marketing their work. They love to write, but do not like to research the markets or go on book tours or interviews or the other things that go WITH the writing. Or perhaps the recordkeeping is burdensome to the writer.</p>
<p>A teacher may love working with kids, but hate all the paperwork that a teaching job requires today. He/she may love coming up with creative ways to combine subjects, but then be told, “Forget being creative. We want you to drill the kids in grammar and math facts so they do well on the standardized tests.” He or she loves teaching, but does not like many of the things that have been added on to teaching jobs, which can be just plain work.</p>
<p>A mom may love being at home with her children, reading to them, playing with them, etc., but not like the housework part of being an at-home mom.</p>
<p>There are many examples of this that you could come up with, should you choose to go in this direction.</p>
<p>My mind was going in the same direction (as Susantm)</p>
<p>If I am going to disagree with this statement:</p>
<p>“Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life” - I would disagree with the notion that you will love every day and every moment of your job! Many people absolutely love their jobs, but occasionally have a bad day or a bad moment, and think to themselves, “Boy, this feels like WORK!” A teacher may love to teach, to see that look of understanding dawn on a young face, yet that same teacher may hate staying up late grading papers, or administering a standardized test, or monitoring detention; all parts of “the job”</p>
<p>Many people love their jobs but don’t love “every day of their job” !! That is the angle I would use to disagree with the Con-man. It is very difficult to disagree with Confucious! (or so he says) :)</p>
<p>“A mom may love being at home with her children, reading to them, playing with them, etc., but not like the housework part of being an at-home mom.”</p>
<p>SO TRUE!!! :D</p>
<p>I went to the write place(where you can get your papers checked by other english teachers) and another english teacher told me that my paper was weak. She also said my teacher shouldn’t have given me that thesis. Because my teacher is the one who made my thesis,because I didn’t know how to word it. Now alot of kids are complaining about how my teacher didn’t explain the paper, the teacher in the write place told me I have rewrite. This will be my third time rewriting it. I am truly going to give up, this might be the first time I will get a bad grade on a paper. Oh well, you can’t always get good grades.</p>
<p>This was the paper I wrote yesterday, and I checked it by the write place today. I have met with my own teacher like 3times after school, and she doesn’t even know what she is doing. She doesn’t know how to explain it…It is really bad so be prepared to see it…Arrgh Can someone please help please…I need help, and it is due tommorow.80points. and i need an A english, I have a B+ right now. This is not good, gosh what am going to do.:(</p>
<p>Imagine that a hard working career-oriented person is still having difficulties in maintaining a job. What would you do if this person was you? Would you give up on the career you love? Confucius once said choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. So if people chose a job they love, then the everyday work they do wont be work, it will be just considered fun. Work is something that has been produced or accomplished through effort. So even though people may love their jobs, they may still consider their jobs hard work because of lack of talent, financial security, and necessary educational background.
Admittedly, some working people, like teachers do love their jobs, and enjoy working with kids. Yet, no matter how much teachers and others love their jobs they are still working hard. Even if a job is fun, it can feel like work if a person is not talented at what they are doing. For example, many kids think because they love basketball, they will be the next Michael Jordan. Many of them dont have the skills, but work hard. In spite of their hard work, not everybody makes the cut at the final analysis. Another example is many young people go to Hollywood to be an aspiring actor or actress, but have no talent. Finding a reason to promote an actor or actress to the next level is often limited by the lack of acting skills. It takes more than the love of your profession, especially if you dont have talent in it.
Also many other jobs that people enjoy doing do not pay well, so people have to work even harder. For Instance, young hard working graduates freshly admitted to medical school that work hard throughout their career, and love the medical profession, run into difficulties in the future because they are unable to fulfill their financial obligations due to high costs of repayment of student loans. So they might love the medical profession, but still have to work hard because of lack of money. Another example is musicians, and how many people want to be in the music industry. They are devoted to making music, and have a passion for expressing their music. But there are many musicians, and artists out there who cant earn enough money to support themselves. So just because you love doing something it doesnt mean the world is going love giving you money for it.
Another issue to consider is that even if you love your career it may feel like work if the person doesnt have the necessarily educational background. Hard work is often a major consideration in deciding the choice of career for students. You can work hard but the choice of career can limit your success in life. For Instance, in spite of a persons hard work if he or she doesnt pass the LSAT they cannot practice law. Also if a person doesnt pass the Board he or she cannot be a certified as a registered nurse. So even though you love the profession, you may need special education, which includes more work.
In conclusion, in spite of the love of a persons career, every effort to be successful often involves hard work. So whether a person chooses a job he or she loves, there is no guarantee that they will not have to work hard. </p>
<p>Any ideas, please I am begging you really…Help a poor writer out:(</p>
<p>“Imagine that a hard working career-oriented person is still having difficulties in maintaining a job. What would you do if this person was you? Would you give up on the career you love? ?” I don’t see a connection between this and what Confucious said.</p>
<p>A “career” is not a job. For instance, a person could love the public health field, and want to have a career in that field. The person, however, might enjoy a job as a public health nurse, not as a rat catcher.</p>
<p>"Even if a job is fun, it can feel like work if a person is not talented at what they are doing. For example, many kids think because they love basketball, they will be the next Michael Jordan. Many of them dont have the skills, but work hard. "</p>
<p>What does “work hard” mean to you? If it means “expends a lot of effort,” then Michael Jordan expended a lot of effort when he played basketball. I don’t see the difference between what Michael Jordan did and what the people do who don’t make it. In fact, Michael Jordan had to work very hard – expend a lot of effort – to get to the top. It is well known that he didn’t make the varsity team at his h.s. He redoubled his efforts – worked hard – to acquire the skills that he needed to play college basketball and to go pro.</p>
<p>“For Instance, young hard working graduates freshly admitted to medical school that work hard throughout their career, and love the medical profession, run into difficulties in the future because they are unable to fulfill their financial obligations due to high costs of repayment of student loans. So they might love the medical profession, but still have to work hard because of lack of money.”</p>
<p>IF you measure hours spent on the job, most doctors put a lot of hours in. They also are on call day and night. This is true whether or not they have paid back their student loans. Still, many doctors love their profession and actually enjoy putting lots of time in. They love what they do. I don’t think that your suggestion that doctors devote a lot of time to their jobs – work hard – only to repay their student loans is true.</p>
<p>“So even though you love the profession, you may need special education, which includes more work.” But if someone loves their field, what would be tedious, boring, hard work to other people could be fun to the person who enjoys becoming educated in a field that they love.</p>
<p>The problems I see are problems of analytical thinking. You haven’t defined hard work. Your examples also don’t support your thesis.</p>
<p>How long has your teacher given you to work on this? In college, I have had at least two weeks to work on English papers and sometimes even as long as four weeks if the professor requires that we do a rough draft and then meet with him/her or our T.A. to address any questions we had and any problems they found in the draft to help us write a better final paper. </p>
<p>Most of the papers that I write contain some kind of information that I have researched, whether from assigned texts or outside sources (ie: websites, other books, articles, etc.) in order to persuade the reader. Usually my introductions consist of five or more sentences (the last sentence being the thesis or claim) and the conclusion also consisting of five or more sentences. </p>
<p>I found this online:
<a href=“http://www.hamilton.edu/academics/resource/wc/Effective_essays.html[/url]”>http://www.hamilton.edu/academics/resource/wc/Effective_essays.html</a></p>
<p>"The problems I see are problems of analytical thinking. You haven’t defined hard work. Your examples also don’t support your thesis. "</p>
<p>Yes, and some grammar issues as well. Is anyone here any English teacher or professor? I’m not 100 % positive, but I do not think that contractions such as “don’t, can’t, won’t, etc.” are used in most essays (unless it is a narrative essay with the writer using characters who speak with contractions). Am I correct on this? Or maybe I just do not use them in my essays…</p>
<p>Columbia, is there a student in your class or another student who may have already taken this class who can help you? It is kind of hard to explain something like this in a message board (at least for me–I’m not sure about for the other posters), so that is the only reason why I am asking if there is another student who could help you also.</p>