<p>Interesting. I did not know that was a law. I thought it was that you had to drive with a parent in the passenger’s front seat while with your permit. I’ve never heard of anything about not being able to drive with friends after you got your license.</p>
<p>Referring to Post #69, I love the idea! A little touch of humor is always a good idea. Call my mom if I screw up–Here’s her number! Gotta love it! As we are seeing on this thread, Mom’s job isn’t easy!</p>
<p>“Close eyes and place head firmly in sand.”</p>
<p>Mary, how many children do you have?</p>
<p>How many drive?</p>
<p>Aren’t you just getting married and setting up a kitchen?</p>
<p>Northstarmom - The obvious way. By going to traffic court. </p>
<p>Because I live in a rural area that doesn’t require 16 yo to have no teens in the car, don’t assume there is no law enforcement. </p>
<p>As I stated earlier, my kids had minor speeding tickets between 16 and 18. If an adult gets a speeding ticket, they can just mail in a fine. Here, kids always have to make a court appearance. I assume it is till 25.</p>
<p>I have kids 16 and 17, both drive. An honor they will retain as long as there are no traffic infractions. I will pull their licences way before CA would. I was also an ER doctor for 10 years. </p>
<p>Been married for twenty some years but I do have a new kitchen;) </p>
<p>Merrymom, I wonder if so many parents telling you they are disturbed by the thinking that it is typical for kids to have many tickets/accidents has impacted you at all?</p>
<p>Jeepmom - not because of driving laws. </p>
<p>Because people are nice and kind and forgiving. The average IQ is 125, so the laws are usually reasonable. And it is beautiful and full of fun things to do!</p>
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I suspected you are a ■■■■■, but this comment convinces me. Sounds as if you live in the town of “Perfect” that is featured on those Walgreen’s commercials</p>
<p>MERRYMOM - gee sure sounds like a nice place - kinda like where I live as well - but the state laws still supersede what the local laws do - especially when it comes to the driving laws - and drinking ones as well.</p>
<p>You seem to be liking the challange to those of us who live in states with much stricter driving laws. To each their own state laws… doesn’t make you right regarding attitudes about them - or not.</p>
<p>BLUEALIEN - the laws depend on which state you live in - are liscensed in. Many states have Junior Op Liscense - with many restrictions on new young drivers. Some states do not have such laws - just make sure you are well aware of the laws of your land - and of any other lands you dare to enter - as you are responsible for knowing those as well.</p>
<p>SS - ROFL - I think I agree LOL</p>
<p>Mary, they are well beyond teens now and highly successful young adults, very highly thought of and accomplished and well liked. </p>
<p>Others have acknowledged my major point - punishment, in addition to a ticket, is unnecessary.</p>
<p>No, no one has convinced me of anything about my way of thinking. I am non-judgemental about people needing advise.</p>
<p>Sticker Shock - Why do you find that so shocking?</p>
<p>Please explain.</p>
<p>If the average IQ is 125 it’s got to be Lake Wobegon!</p>
<p>The men are good looking. The women are strong. All the kids are above average. Unfortunately, it does not say whether they are able to resist peer pressure or are law-abiding citizens.</p>
<p>MERRYMOM…they are well beyond teens now and highly successful young adults, very highly thought of and accomplished and well liked. …</p>
<p>Now I get it… her kids did the learning to drive/get 1st liscense thing - long before the stricter driving laws hit the books - the ones in MA/VA/NC were all instituted this year - not sure about CA - so guess it would make a difference ‘back then’. Now-a-days - new/young drivers are expected to obey the laws of the land - and if not - then pay the consequences - which in some states would mean an automatic suspension of that new liscense.</p>
<p>Like I said before - can’t do the time - then don’t do the crime…</p>
<p>No Marite, it is not Lake Wobegon. I would assume the average IQ in Cambridge is in that range and Silicon Valley, also.</p>
<p>My comment to Jeep Mom about where I live was a response to questions concerning the laws where I live. </p>
<p>Thank you for reintroducing your opinion.</p>
<p>How is license spelled?</p>
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<p>Yes, you are right. It is a law in Oregon. I misspoke (wrote?) – the law states no passengers under the age of 20, except for those in immediate family, for the first 6 months of the provisional license. No more than 3 teen passengers allowed for the 2nd 6 months. It is also illegal to drive between the hours of midnight and 5 a.m. except under certain conditions, for the first 6 months.</p>
<p>Observation: merrymom appears to have more experience than any one else on this thread (or anyone I have met) with teenage accidents, tickets and court appearances. This is a case, however, where the parent with the most experience is NOT the one whose advice I would want to take. Something is amiss when a parent’s kid(s) is the one with the most offenses and I, for one, would not want to be modelling my parenting choices after the choices in such a family.
I simply cannot let this pass. I live in a rural area. My kid started driving at age 16. To date, he has had one speeding ticket, which occurred after age 18. He is now 20. It is simply NOT true that “if you live in a rural area, [your teen] will ahve many driving incidents.” Further, as many have pointed out, the infraction of the OP daughter has nothing to do with driving ability and everything to do with respect for the law. In our state, teens could not have passengers under 21, except siblings, for 3 months. I wish I had taken a photo of our driveway on the evening DS had 9 friends over - 8 cars in the driveway, because only 1 kid had been licensed long enough to take a passenger. These kids, and their families, respected the law and that driveway was a visual reminder of it.</p>
<p>It also strains credulity that a family with a history of teen tickets and accidents has never had their insurance rate increased - or, in fact, insurance taken away. (post #116).</p>
<p>The new laws are seen as a success in California.</p>
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<p>Merrymom, July 2007, new poster, is obviously a reincarnation…from whom is the question???</p>
<p>It is, I agree with the new law. I don’t think you can drive siblings in California either. I wouldn’t want my D to either. Why risk another life if you don’t have to.</p>