Not interested in a debate, but have you read the articles and independent tools linked earlier about the flaws with many outcome reports? Can be especially problematic with smaller schools.
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So undergrad at UMass and Grad at Bentley. Best of both worlds.
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Bingo.
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I donât know - a graduate degree is far off and after work and may not come to fruition.
If the student goes to UMASS or Wisconsin, I think itâs great. If they want the big football, itâs Wisconsin.
They had mentioned Bentley and rank and looking for best outcome - so thereâs some factual data on one of their choices.
Every student should go where they can afford and decide to attend, for whatever the reason. Heck, mine chose a school so he could have his own dorm roomâŠeveryone is different.
This OP seems focused on rank/outcomes so I mentioned it.
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Iâll assume the two posters debating will stop or take it to PM.
Further posts will be deleted without comment.
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Isenberg is highly sought after among OOS and has good placement in the east coast financial markets.
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Bentley is a fine school, particularly if a smaller school vs. a larger flagship is preferred. As with Wisconsin, whether itâs worth a 1.8x cost increment over UMass Isenberg would be an individual decision; I personally donât see that much value-added. In terms of outcomes, it may be worth noting that Bentley has a significantly wealthier student body than either of the publics (unsurprisingly). Business students who come from the top 1% or top 5% in terms of family income (as 8%/29% of Bentley students do, per the slightly-outdated NYT series) may also have connections that deserve some of the credit for their earning power after graduation. Regardless, the school is a worthy choice⊠but I have a hard time seeing a student who prefers Wisconsin-Madison over UMass based on rank and vibe turning down both flagships for Bentley at the same, higher cost as Wisconsin.
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I agree with your well written, valid points. Personally, I think U Mass Amherst is the best choice here, which includes another reason not yet mentioned- it is a member of the Five College Consortium, so, if space available, your student can take classes at Amherst, Mt. Holyoke, Smith or Hampshire. To me, this is a big plus that pushes its value above the other schools.
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OP- all due respect, you are getting some questionable advice on this thread.
If you were to ask 100 Talent leaders across different segments of the economy which were the best career services offices and then show them the list cited above they would howl with laughter.
West Point is the top career services operation in the country. Why? 100% employment, immediately upon graduation, no grad school required, and every single graduate going into the field they intended to go into when they graduated from HS.
Is this helpful information for you and your kid? No it is not. Iâm pointing out that just because a survey touts Bentleyâs outcomes as somehow superior to the other options doesnât make it true- or relevant.
The best outcome for your kid is going to be a college experience which stretches him intellectually, socially, and in every other way that interests him. Period, full stop. Please do not use these dubious surveys as a guide. I do not understand the methodology used in the survey cited above, but after 35+ years in corporate recruiting across several industry sectors (and both national and global roles), the list does not jive with reality in any shape or form.
Your kid sounds fantastic and is going to have a heck of a time in college!!!
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@Skywalker70, where did your kid end up deciding to attend?
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He decided on UW Madison.
But now we are in trouble. His grades are falling from A-/B+ to B-/C+ in the last two quarters. He has almost all Cs on the 5 AP classes in the last two quarters. Too many APs for him to take (against our advice in the beginning) to be burnt out. There was a week when he got virus and sick.
We the parents are extremely worried that the university can revoke the admission on falling grades. We are encouraging him to do best, but with less than 3 weeks left, we are not sure he can improve his grades a lot.
We donât know the back-up plan yet. A gap year then re-apply to UMass?
I think if he can keep his grades in the B/C range it will be ok. Keep encouraging him to work hard through the end of the year. Donât worry about back-up plan yet. Good luck.
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@happy1: Thank you a lot for your advice. We are nearly desperate. Now we only can hope for the best. If you guys know a similar situation and what else such students can do, please let us know.
You might be worried for nothing. Big state schools usually donât resind for a grade drop that doesnât go below C+, especially if they are AP classes. Talk to the guidance counselor and they should be able to give you some insight into what theyâve seen in the past.
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If you would like to connect with other parents in similar positions with their seniors, check out the most recent posts in the Class of 2025 Parents forum. Sometimes it helps to vent with those going through the same. That darn senioritis.
Best of luck to your son! As others said, he should be okay if he doesnât drop below a C, assuming there were no conditions to his acceptance that would indicate otherwise.
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IMO the best thing to do now is to stay calm and keep encouraging your son to finish strong.
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What do the conditions listed in his admission letter say about grades in in-progress courses?
The admission letter says: your admission to the university is dependent upon maintaining the academic record and progression indicated when you applied to UW Madison.
Seems like a typical worry-inducing vague condition.
A GPA drop of 3.55 â 2.5 or so would entail some risk of rescission, but it is hard to say how much.
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