Pls help with a college list! Decent ACT [33], low GPA [3.3] [MA resident, international relations]

About 25% of the student body is OOS, and they’re evaluated differently

Unfortunately, they admit something like 94% of their class via EA. A 3.3 would have made UMD at least a high target in EA, but it’ll be a reach in RD.

But no worries, hopefully she lands at a place she likes. Good luck to her.

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I thought some would like to know the results so far. She didn’t apply ED anywhere, just EA where available.

Binghamton - in, President’s Scholarship $56K/4 years

Seton Hall - in, University Scholarship $104.5K/4 years

Hofstra - in, Trustee Scholarship $144k/4 years

George Mason - in, Mason Distinction Award $72K/4 years

Fordham - deferred, with an email asking to switch to ED2.

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Thanks so much for coming back to let us know how the college apps have been going so far. It’s very much appreciated!

And, big congrats to your D! Those are some great options to have. Are there any schools in the lead so far?

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Any favorites ? I assume at the Hall it’s for the School of Diplomacy and IR ?

These are great gets!! You’ve won !!

Well your student has. Congrats.

PS - did she apply to Delaware - Mich safer and as good as UMD. Pitt, too, if she likes urban but would be full pay.

Thanks! There is one program, a far reach one/borderline impossible, that she is waiting on. Once she knows the response there, she will then look at all of the options available to her.

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Thank you! Yes, School of Diplomacy at Seton Hall. She didn’t apply to Delaware and will not apply to UMD. She did apply to Pitt and hasn’t heard from them yet.

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Take a look at Gettysburg with majors in International & Global Studies; Public Policy; and Political Scuence. All are enhanced by the Eisenhower Institute with offices both on campus and in Washington, DC. it offers semester long and year long immersive experiences for hands on learning opportunities in addition to guest speakers and other campus activities. It’s only an hour and a half drive to DC.

Gettysburg is one of the exceptions to the admissions approach at liberal arts colleges in that it does consider standardized test score to be important. Your 33 is at the 75th %ile for Gettysburg, so you should be very competitive there. They have a 39% acceptance rate, so not out of reach. I think that you’re a good candidate for admissions there.

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Another update, post latest round of EA decisions. Here is a full list so far.

American University - in, School of International Service, Dean and Trustee scholarships $120K/4 years

Northeastern - in, first semester abroad $12,800/4 years

Virginia Tech - in, National Security and Foreign Affairs major

Pittsburgh University – in via either Path to Pitt or regional campus start, then transfer to main

Ohio State University - in

UMass Amherst - in (home state)

Indiana University - in Hamilton Lugar School

Binghamton - in, President’s Scholarship $56K/4 years

Seton Hall - in, University Scholarship $104.5K/4 years

Hofstra - in, Trustee Scholarship $144k/4 years

George Mason - in, Mason Distinction Award $72K/4 years

Fordham - deferred, with an email asking to switch to ED2.

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Congrats. Great options. Any leaders in the clubhouse or any eliminated via budget which you were a bit opaque on. Hopefully you’ve visited some or will. Those are fantastic results.

Is Fordham top of list ? If not, just say no. They are looking to lock in your $$.

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Thanks! Fordham is not top of list. Deferred students had to submit an additional response to a prompt, which she did. She then got a request to submit a 1 minute video. I assume that all of this is for their yield protection as I doubt very much that all these videos will be watched – it’s simply an additional hoop to jump through to demonstrate interest. Fordham is a wonderful school, but I am not sure it’s worth the price.

I am not trying to be opaque on the budget – we can afford full pay both at Fordham and at Northeastern, but it’s definitely not pocket change and we will not pay it just because we can. I do care about value proposition. We are in the middle of paying for our eldest and we have a younger one, who will also, hopefully, go to college (no overlap with the current senior). And, yes, we visited some and will visit the rest once the list is narrowed down. Honestly, I/we did not expect these results and we personally know multiple kids with better stats who didn’t achieve similar decisions at, for example, Northeastern and OSU. The VT acceptance letter stated: “With more than 58,000 applications for 7,251 seats in our first-year class, it was an extremely competitive selection process” – and while I understand that her selected major is not as competitive as others at VT, it still surprised me.

This is a great list of acceptances! Nice options, curious what the current favorites are?

Just as an aside, re

We got a similar letter from one of C26’s colleges, but I think it is a little misleading regarding how selective it is as they don’t only make that number of offers. From the CDS last year looks like VT offered about 4x the number of places. Similar to the other college I’m thinking of.

True.

She is still waiting on a few more, but I think that it is American for her.

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That was the one that jumped out at me from the list :slight_smile: It was on my D19’s shortlist. D and I both liked it a lot.

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I think your student is solid and to to be honest, it’s also how a school spins the story. Well VT has a 25% yield overall, 14% so on average, they needed to admit 29k to get 7250. Their OOS and Intl yields are low, likely due to cost and in state yield is high, near half. And schools like OOS $$. And you were not engineering. Not to reduce the entry as I think you are a much better candidate than you give yourself credit for, but they simply sold a story.

Your student had an increasing GPA, great ACT, rigor , speaks 4 languages and is a world class athlete. What’s not to love ?

Likely a better candidate than you thought. And the results clearly show that.

You can do the major in IS anywhere but Hamilton Lugar was a personal favorite as we went through the process - and Seton Hall had the school of diplomacy. But given my daughter’s results from Charleston, I suspect no matter where you land, good things can happen. Check to see what type of institutes or other global relations activities each has. Check the guest speaker list. Any diplomats on the faculty etc. My daughter had all that and it adds to the education. See if the schools have someone who is still doing it like Mr. Merkel, who can bring stories and insights like no other. C of C has the Mroz Institute. We didn’t know about it but schools out there may have something similar. Those add extra activities and enrichment. Also look at the curriculums of each school as they might differ. Really the education can go so many ways.

Bottom line - your kid delivered and that’s why schools like Va Tech and OSU gravitated to them.

You are right, but it’s difficult to see this because we live in a very competitive district and GPA is king. We are surrounded by hundreds, if not thousands of high achieving children and schools that send dozens to IVYs. However, her sports accomplishments are top notch and it’s something she’ll always carry with her.

Excellent advice. Some of the schools already started to name drop the speakers they get.

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