Prep School Rape

@EarlVanDorn The jail time Labrie faces is for the misdemeanors not the felony. He was found guilty of sexual contact with a minor, consensual or not. For the felony, he was given a suspended sentence. Therefore, your points re: the felony are moot. (BTW legal experts don’t agree with you on the likelihood of a successful appeal)

@doschicos I was not aware that he was given a “suspended” sentence for the computer charge, however, since he must register as a sex offender for life, it is essentially a life sentence.

I’ll be plain. I do not believe it should be against the law for two high school students to have consensual sex. There, I’ve said it.

Labrie can petition to get off the sex offender list after 15 years if his appeals fail.

However, the way Labrie follows rules, I have my doubts about him getting off the list.

Labrie probably didn’t agree with the law either but his case is not sympathetic because he targeted a minor for his sexual exploits. He doesn’t have to agree with the law, he just had to seek sex elsewhere or face the consequences.

I have my doubts that this case would have gone anywhere if it were really about “two high school students having consensual sex” - this is about hazing, predation, harmful school culture, substance use, etc. YES I understand that they got him on the minor-sex charges.

@Consolation: “There are also judges who think that people should serve 10 years in jail for … pantsing someone on a playground…”

Close to it. Additionally, said kid needs therapy, and there should be an investigation into what is going on in the home life. Maybe someone there needs to serve 10 years in jail.

Nor should anyone else. Once a felon has paid his debt to society, he should be free to live his life.

Here’s the latest from today including a filing by the defense ahead of tomorrow’s hearing. I call BS on some of this. I guess we’ll find out what the court thinks tomorrow.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new-hampshire/2016/03/17/owen-labrie-was-studying-meeting-with-attorneys-when-broke-curfew-attorney-says/2Ntcro0VLZoEmNILXj1UnN/story.html

Oh my, it’s a far cry from her initial “shame on him” response.

Meeting his lawyer? Maybe he should sue his lawyer for malpractice for making him break curfew to get to the meeting.

WMUR-TV will live stream the hearing.

Labrie’s attorneys were deliberately having Labrie break his curfew?

The attorneys deliberately ignored the judges ruling?

I wonder if he was doing research for a professor at Harvard -? Could he be enrolled in Harvard Extension classes as the “online coursework” mentioned?

Are there no jobs he could get close to home that would allow him to respect his curfew? Surely some sort of job would be available between the hours of 8am and 5pm.

Sort of sounds to me like he doesn’t want to work for an hourly wage but would rather use that big brain of his and skulk around at Harvard like he thinks he’s entitled to.

(While I’m wondering, why does his dad, who went to Andover and has a PhD from Brown, according to the VF article, work as a landscaper? I guess it’s a personal choice. Not one that I would make if I had a kid who wanted to attend an expensive boarding school and a pricey college).

Why does he have to meet with lawyers in DC? Surely the victim’s parents wouldn’t be naming him in any suit they might file against St. Paul’s (because he has no assets and suing him would make their daughter vulnerable to being deposed by Labrie).

It amuses me that the Dartmouth Coach employees knew him by sight when the Concord Police inquired about him.

He’s never heard of Coursera?

“It amuses me that the Dartmouth Coach employees knew him by sight when the Concord Police inquired about him.”
It’s a small state. :slight_smile: But that’s also the defense’s take on it with their own motivation behind the statement. Who knows if that is actual true. Spin.

I found the Defendant’s Opposition to Revoke Bail pleading very confusing. Apparently the October violations were under some previous bail order, but they don’t state what that order said and why that is even relevant.

Then they keep claiming in the pleading that he notified Merrimack County Pre-trial Services about some of these trips, but they go on to say that Pre-trial Services responded they didn’t have the authority to give him permission to travel. How does that help him???

Then the attorney says Labrie is sorry for any violations. Maybe that helps him a little.

“Then the attorney says Laurie is sorry for any violations. Maybe that helps him a little.”

Well, that’s more remorse than he showed throughout the entire trial.

@doschicos - not sure about him showing remorse after all it’s the attorney who wrote it.

Maybe Owen Labrie and Ethan Couch can share a cell and swap excuses.

@fretfulmother

“As @LucieTheLakie noted, an increase in reporting does not mean an increase in incidence of rape.”

An increase in reporting is a great indicator for an increase of rape cases. Arguments otherwise presents no evidence and are not concrete. Especially, when before, ladies were required to hide everything.

“In the USA, we generally don’t think it’s our business what other people’s sex lives look like, unless someone’s rights are being violated. I fail to see any moral imperative for things to be otherwise in society.”

The point of government is to guide the people to the right path. Just because America do not care about other people’s life, it does not mean we can simply ignore it. What is someone’s right? To what extent can we go with our rights? It isn’t to just allow people to do whatever they want. People’s sex life is where most problems arise. The most problem occurs there. However, we do not know what is actually going on. In truth, what is going on. Perhaps, the girl, in this case, was lying about being forced to have sex. No one knows. How can we judge what is right on something we do not know? You cannot. To have stability in a country, we cannot simply judge things from the statement, but rather, through research, you should be judged.

“I should note that in all countries where sexuality is legislated as @Derivativeofx seems to imply it should be, there are gross human rights violations, governmental violence, and things we would all call “cruel and unusual” (e.g. Honor killings, Stonings of raped women, etc.)”

Who do you think you are? Some person who know what is the right thing to do? Because I, well we, are nowhere even knowledgeable of what is the right thing to do. We are humans. We are not perfect. We intend to call things we do not like wrong and things we like as right. I do think some acts are extremely stupid, such as honor killing. However, for a long time slavery was considered the right thing to do. We considered it as justice and there was nothing wrong with it. However, was it actually the right thing to do? Perhaps, later, after several hundred years, people will finally realize something was wrong. There is clearly something to learn here.

“The problem with LaBrie isn’t about kids getting carried away or being immature bozos. The problem is that he is a proven predator with some kind of narcissistic or other issue that means he does not view other people (particularly women) as though they are full humans like himself. As a teacher, sometimes we have boys who are worried that being sexually interested means they are predators - it does not mean this. Most boys are good guys who, if a girl cried and said, “no, I don’t want that” would get turned OFF not turned ON.”

Again, we truly do not know the entire issue. The girl may have been lying. She may have trapped him and put him on the spot. If a girl actually cried, “PLS DO THAT, I WANT IT”, then later she goes to the police and tell them she was raped, there is a problem. However, in this country, we always look at ladies as completely innocent.

This post was edited to remove some highly inappropriate comments. While much of what remains (IMO) makes little sense, and I am going to post a comment that adds to a couple that have already been posted since this one, some of these comments do refer to material now removed, at least in part. - Fallenchemist

^^^^^ speechless