Prestige of US schools among Chinese citizens

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<p>What makes you think all the other posters are Asian citizens?</p>

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<p>A baseball cap.</p>

<p>most of us have self-identified as asian citizens :wink:
seta actually went to Peking U.
again, I understand that the “rich” or the “elite” of hongkong may choose to send their children to get an American education. The same applies to mainland China, and many, many other places around the world. That’s precisely why i’m getting an American education.
However, that does not give you or anyone else the right to look down on the top asian unis.
furthermore, your argument still does not undermine the original point, which is that many of the high-class businessmen/politicians/people in power are from Peking U, Tsinghua U or whatever, and they have much stronger alumni connections that will take you places in China, compared to HYPSM.</p>

<p>000ace000, if you review iamtbh’s posting history, you will see that he vehemently denied being from Asia.</p>

<p>No, I said: “what makes you think I am an Asian international?” I never said if I was one or not. Because it is irrelevant.</p>

<p>to answer OP’s question. if you get a UG degree from the listed schools w/o work experience and w/o knowing Chinese, your chance of landing a job in China is very slim. Top Chinese schools (tsinghua, peking, zhejiang) produce highly qualified students. Think about the amount of Asian kids in the US competing for HYSP, multiply it by a few order of magnitude, gives you an idea of how competitive those to Chinese UG schools are.</p>

<p>US graduate degree may have an advantage for multi-national corporations in China, if you work as an ex-pat. The pay scale if you were hired in China isn’t competitive with what you would be earning in the US.</p>

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<p>Odd logic. Most of the west coast- from San Diego up into Canada- has a largish population of American and Canadian students whose families happen to have once immigrated from an Asian or SE Asian country. That doesn’t necessarily translate into a known reputation for those living in the original countries. There are tons of such colleges, and many countries from which these students’ family once immigrated.</p>

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Hi, Sam, that’s an unfair statement. You can point out the problem of my ranking, but you cannot say I have an agenda because I don’t. As 000ace000 mentioned, JHU has a center in Nanjing hosted by Nanjing University which itself is a top ten university in China. JHU also has a joint center with Tsinghua University for biomedical engineering research in Beijing. The Chinese Ambassador to the UN is an JHU alum and so were two of the Health Ministers in Taiwan. The author of the Rape of Nanjing was a JHU alum. JHU President was only one of the three American university presidents invited by the Chinese government to participate the opening ceremony of the 2008 Beijing Olympics. You have a point in saying Cornell is more well known in China since it does have a lot of contacts with China, not so about UPenn.</p>

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Considering that ARWU spent millions of dollars doing that rank and I spend nothing and get this close, I’d say it’s a remarkable achievement :). Besides, the ARWU rank says very litte about udergraduate education. For example, ARWU ranked Berkeley very high (so did I, based on my experience in China), but I visited one of the undergraduate labs in Berkeley, it is no better than a community college lab (Berkely accepts quite a few community transfers.)</p>

<p>I’m Chinese and I will be going to Cal State Long Beach and my whole family is proud of me.</p>

<p>But I definitely know what schools my entire family wishes I would go to.</p>

<p>UC Berkeley, UCLA, Harvard, Stanford, NYU, MIT</p>

<p>There you go.</p>

<p>Awww! I chose Rochester over Michigan and UVa. I guess I can’t impress my friends and relatives. :frowning: However, I found out that Deng Xiaoping’s son attended Rochester, so it’s not that bad.</p>

<p>^^ Rochester is a fine institution and you should be proud of it. US Energy Secretary, Noble Prize winner Steven Chu graduated from Rochester.</p>

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<p>It’s quite possible that the undergrad labs at Berkeley are no better than the ones at a community college. (I don’t know, since I am not a Berkeley student.) But how is that relevant to the fact that Berkeley accepts community college transfers? If you’re trying to take a dig against another university, at least don’t be so sneaky and underhanded about it. That said, if you are really a “professor” (as your username suggests), chances are that you’d probably give up a kidney to get tenure at Berkeley.</p>

<p>^^Wow…, no point to get angry or personal attack. I have two relatives who got accepted into Berkeley with Regent Scholarship and decided to go somewhere else.

Berkeley accepts community college transfers because the quality at the community colleges including the labs are equivalent and otherwise, they won’t accept the courses.</p>

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<p>You’re not an English “professor,” are you??</p>

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<p>Nor do you teach logic, apparently.</p>

<p>EDIT: the “professor” has seen and corrected the (grammatical) error of his ways (exactly one minute after my post).</p>

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<p>I do not look down on the top (or any other) Asian universities. Nor did I give you any reason to think I do. Quite the contrary. I believe that Chinese universities will be major global players in the foreseeable future.</p>

<p>You guys should read this article (link below) written by the president of Yale which was just published and on sale in the newstand as we speak. The website has an excerpt of the article and it talk about the rise of Asian universities and how it is catching up with the likes of Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and UChicago. The magazine Foreign Affairs is a very reputable journal of foreign studies.</p>

<p>[Top</a> of the Class | Foreign Affairs](<a href=“http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/66216/richard-c-levin/top-of-the-class]Top”>http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/66216/richard-c-levin/top-of-the-class)</p>

<p>imtbh, you cannot help but to attack people. There is no point to respond to you anymore. Good luck.</p>

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<p>Only surgeons can (technically speaking) “attach” people. I am still in college. Maybe someday…</p>

<p>EDIT: again the “professor” has seen and corrected another (spelling) error. (but this time it took him five minutes after my post.)</p>

<p>Back to the topic, I think that in general, as more Chinese students come to the US for undergraduate studies, schools like Berkeley’s reputation in China will approach that in the US.</p>