It doesn’t matter how the IB is set up at each school, at the end of day there are IB exams. My daughter did fairly well on her IB exams. She found her IB courses to be a lot of busy work and very rigid with its curriculum. She found courses at her NJ private were more challenging than IB. What I am trying to point out here is just because a school offers IB doesn’t mean it has more academic rigor. We were happy she had very good foundation before we moved overseas. In the city we lived in there were many English speaking international schools, so the expats had many options. The American International school was considered to be the best and not every student enrolled in the IB program.
Pingry had 12 National Merit Semifinalists, Newark Academy had 7 (see the 2nd link), and Delbarton had 1 for Class of 2018.
Interestingly, Oratory Prep had 3 and is a smaller school. Seton Hall Prep had 2 and Christian Brothers Academy had 3.
It is much harder to make National Merit Semifinalist (223 index score) than National Merit Commended (213 index score).
“MBS Class of 2017 did not send a single student to an ivy league school”
Not every student looking to attend a private school in NJ has an Ivy League admission as their end goal. Also, not sending a student to an ivy league doesn’t mean the students did not receive a quality HS education. As some have pointed out, the many private HS in NJ have different “personalities” (just like the many colleges in this country.) You need to find the school that fits your student (otherwise they should attend their local public HS - which in NJ are very well rated). Different families have different priorities for HS - co-ed or single sex, religious or not, diverse or not, strong athletics or not, etc.
Compare these college profiles - one of them is suspiciously vague…
I think you inadvertently didn’t attach the detailed matriculation year by year data that Delbarton includes on the web site.
I would venture a guess that if you removed the school name off of any of the college lists for Pingry, Delbarton or NA for a given year you couldn’t guess the school. Reality is all three produce tremendous results just arrived at differently. In Delbarton’s case it’s achieved while beating everyone else at sports. That elicits some misconceptions and jealousy but doesn’t diminish the outcomes of their students.
Again not every school is for every kid but certainly Delbarton’s placement speaks for itself. Cheers
And to be fair, sunnyschool attached each school’s profile and Delbarton didn’t include matriculation year by year.
In 2017 Pingry had 27 to ivies, and Delbarton had 13.
Many thanks sunnyschool for taking the time to do extra legwork with respect to the NMSQT Semifinalists at several indeoendent schools. I do not dispute at all that different families have differing priorities. MBS is frequently lauded as having nice facilities and being friendly, supportive, and nurturing. The right fit is key, but one would hope that access to ivy is available for kids at that kind of sticker price. Perhaps it is available, but less obvious.
Oldfort the actual number was 16 from Delbarton last year down from 27 in 2014. This year looks like it will be around 22-23. I would also keep in mind that at all schools some kids get into ivies and choose alternatives. I think you run the risk of once again generalizing by using such narrow data sets.
With that said your missing the point by trying to define one school as better than another or “the benchmark”. No school in NJ can match the combination of national level athletics and great academics Delbarton has. That doesn’t make it better just different. If an extra 5 kids a year gets in to Ivy schools from Pingry for some that might be better. If an average student is compelled to achieve greatness by going to Mo Beard then that may be “the benchmark”.
For each individual there is a unique best fit. Relax and get comfortable in your own shoes without having to make fun of someone else’s.
“No school in NJ can match the combination of national level athletics and great academics Delbarton has.”
Ironic that you would make this statement while simultaneously trying to assert that someone can’t define one school as better than another.*
*Disclaimer: I have daughters, so zero affiliation with any school mentioned in this thread. I just live in NJ, have sent both kids to private schools, and have opinions.
State Championships, head to head games and National Rankings are what they are. If you don’t believe these to be accurate measures I will stand down (although that is why they keep score).
If you can name a school that has as much athletic success as Delbarton across as many sports with so few students I will gladly stand corrected. NJ.com couldn’t when they named Delbarton as the top athletic school in the state.
For the record they are currently the lacrosse, soccer, baseball and hockey state champions (with several sports having state wide tournament of champions).
I also said this mix of athletics and academics might not be the best option for all students. That other mixes, environments might yield better results based on the individual student. Context matters and my point was each school is unique and has its strengths that may lend themselves to the individual needs of an individual student.
Right…LOL…Delbarton is great for athletics and is a BOYS school. I believe most kids going to Ivies or Duke from Delbarton play sports. Duke is known for taking Duke LAX players, for example. Let me check…
Yep, 3 on Dukes LAX roster are from Delbarton: http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=2027&SPSID=25941
It’s also rumored that Delbarton has increased class size over the past few years and relaxed criteria a bit. Nothing wrong with that, just saying it is known.
They are all good schools. But there are clear differences in their focuses, evident on their websites and in their school profiles.
Sunnyschool Not sure why the passive aggression? I have not said a single negative word about another school yet you seem compelled to attack both Delbarton and in this last post by inference my son.
Your presumption that “most kids going to Ivies or Duke from Delbarton” are admitted based on athletics is incorrect. Of the 22-23 this year I know of 5 that are recruited athletes. Not to identify my own son in response to your comment but he is an athlete but not recruited to play college athletics. He got in based on the entirety of who he is. Again other schools may be “better” but please don’t diminish the achievements of Delbarton kids, it’s beneath you.
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My kids didn’t play sports, but they had one major EC they were close being professions. They did the EC outside of school. I also know many students from my kid’s school who were admitted to Ivies and top 20 schools were athletic recruits and most of them did their sports outside of school (club level?). Therefore I am not sure if I would necessary choose a school because of sports.
Oldfort- couldn’t agree with you more. Exactly the point I was making. Different kids will thrive or benefit from different environments.
Sunnyschool- thanks for proving my point. The ranking you showed is a survey that has Delbarton number two with MB at one. I am sure you took note of the fact that the greatest determinant was parent and student input. Stated differently the kids and parents at Delbarton still love their athletic program while being the most successful based upon championships. If you dig a little deeper that ranking is in there as well. Not even the most fervent MB supporter would suggest they compete with Delbarton.
Here it is. That was last year but this year won both State hockey and soccer championships and ranked number one at lacrosse.
Wait, so now Delbarton isn’t the best? I’m confused.
SevenDad- one last try. Never said Delbarton was “the best” school. If you read the entire thread you will see my comments were in response to the assertion that Pingry was “the best” and “the benchmark” for all NJ private schools. I have repeatedly said that all the schools have their niche which will serve individual kids.
I have defined Delbarton’s niche as a strong academic school that has the preeminent sports program in the state. This opinion is evidenced by both surveys above and the numerous championships mentioned. If you have a HS that you think is better athletically name it please.
This shouldn’t be so controversial.