**PSAT Discussion Thread 2015**

I still have not gottwn my scores!! CB what are you doing!?!?

@jrob1765 – For your list of SI’s & percentiles – are these Your PSAT/NMSQT User Percentile - National rather than: Nationally Representative Sample Percentile. I think the “User” percentiles are most relevant. Thanks for putting it together!!

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@TheGFG and others on the same boat. Please see an article on Examiner on why some students need access codes while others don’t.

Http://www.examiner.com/article/2015-psat-nmsqt-scores-debut-tomorrow

@8o6peary Your chart is very helpful: Just wonder if the SI’s are for each “user” :Your PSAT/NMSQT User Percentile - National

and NOT: Nationally Representative Sample Percentile

Also - this linked report someone above posted is useful: http://www.bernardsboe.com/UserFiles/Servers/Server_3096886/File/Jill%20Shadis/Ridge%20Counseling/Standardized%20Testing/Understanding%202014%20PSAT-NMSQT%20Scores.pdf

It shows in 2014 the lowest 99%ile was 213 - so it seems, based on the various state cut-offs in 2014 and SI’s being reported for October 2015 PSAT as in 99%ile now (a “User” SI of 200 is 99%ile (really?)), then the State cut-offs should come down in most cases by as least several points (though there might not be across the board the same amount of drop in SI cut-offs). Does this make sense?

Your chart:
340, 203, 98th Percentile
1360, 198, 98th Percentile
1370, 200, 99th Percentile
1370, 209, 99th Percentile
1380, 206, 99th Percentile
1390, 207, 99th percentile
1390, 209, 99th percentile
1400, 206, 99th Percentile
1400, 210, 99th Percentile
1410, 208, 99th Percentile
1420, 210, 99th Percentile (*in 2014 - a 212 was 98%tile - see linked report above)
1440, 214, 99th Percentile
1440, 216, 99th Percentile
1450, 217, 99th Percentile
1470, 219, 99th Percentile
1470, 220, 99th Percentile
1470, 221, 99th Percentile
1480, 221, 99th Percentile
1480, 222, 99th Percentile
1500, 225, 99th Percentile
1520, 228, 99th Percentile
1520, 228, 99th Percentile

Thanks for the link! This is the relevant section from the article that addresses the problem:

“Because students don’t register for the PSAT, there’s no guarantee that a specific answer grid could be tied to a specific online account. But based on school, birthdate, last name, and a combination of factors, the College Board is able to use their powerful tracking system to match a majority of students automatically. This will enable students to see their results when they log in or create an account—no additional information or “code” will be necessary to retrieve scores. In cases, where the College Board was unable to match the grid to an existing account, students can get a unique access code from their school counselors.”

D already had an account with CB, having taken the 10th grade PSAT, and having registered for two upcoming SAT test dates later this month and in June, so I am not sure why there would have been a problem matching her up with her online account, which is what the article suggests. Odd.

I think people are failing to consider that NM selection is based on selection index, not scores on 760/1520 scale. CB reported whether students were in the 99th percentile based on their math/reading cumulative scores on 1520 scale, not based on their selection index. The student who reported that he or she was in the 99th percentile with a 1370 probably had roughly a 740 math/630 reading score to produce a 200 SI. But I doubt that 200 SI is actually in the 99th percentile. Another student could have a 1370 with a 760 reading/610 math and a SI of 213 which may be in the 99th percentile. Unfortunately, CB hasn’t published the percentiles for SI scores so we can only guess at them. But I am confident that it is NOT as low as 200 or even 206 despite the self-reports above for students who probably had higher math than English/reading scores.

Ohio, 1440, 218, 99th percentile

My son is from Maine and doesn’t have his access codes still. One of his friends from another school has his scores from Maine so some have scores some don’t

@MOMH20 – I was thinking that for SI’s based upon underlying sub-scores that are in the 99%ile we could get a sense of the lowest SI that is 99%ile (If the student with the 200 SI has the reading, reading +writing & math sub-scores at 99%ile for the “User” data then that would be helpful to know. 200 SI seems low for 99%ile I agree. 213 was though in 2014 when the scale was at 240 (see this report: http://www.bernardsboe.com/UserFiles/Servers/Server_3096886/File/Jill%20Shadis/Ridge%20Counseling/Standardized%20Testing/Understanding%202014%20PSAT-NMSQT%20Scores.pdf) so perhaps a 205 or around there would actually be the 99th%ile.

I do think that in April when the cut-off for SI needed to be NM Commended comes out (was it about 206 previously?) that it will be a bit of a basis to recalibrate predictions about state cut-off scores. If it drops much then it should confirm that state cut-offs will drop some too.

@athenanv13 I believe student may have scored higher on the reading and writing sections. If you look at the tables, it seems you can have the same overall score but your SI would be lower based on the section scores.

Yes, you should be able to guesstimate the state cut-off scores when the commended cut-off score comes out. There will be about 50,000 test takers nationwide who score higher than the commended cut-off. About 16,000 of those will move on as semi-finalist.

Good job to all. This was a rough wait, but scores are finally known.

Massachusetts, 1350, 204, User percentile = 97th

My son has a SI of 211 (1380) in the 98 percentile in Alabama. Hoping he has a chance of NMS @jerzmaster . Any guesses are appreciated. Hopeful.

Here is list of fellow sufferers without scores. Feel free to add your state and region and re-post the list if you also still can’t access the 2015 results.

  1. Central New Jersey (not everyone)
  2. MD (not everyone)
  3. Southern New Jersey
  4. Southeastern Pennsylvania
  5. Southwest Ohio
  6. Northern New Jersey
  7. Florida
  8. West Tennessee
  9. West Michigan (not everyone)
  10. Texas (Houston Metro) - ginormous school district and counselors don't have access.

We also live in Alabama. My son scored 209 with composite 1400 in 99th percentile. Does anyone think this will make the cutoff for our state? Alabama’s cutoff was 209 last year.

Massachusetts, 1520, 228, 99 percentile

1 wrong answer in Reading

My son took his SAT in May 2015, according to the rules on the official website for this year that should serve to validate in next year’s application process.

@3dixieboys 209 has been a nice score in the past for AL. I certainly hope your son makes it! I think it will be a long wait until April.

@3dixieboys I think your son will get it. Considering he is from Alabama, a score in the 99th percentile SHOULD mean NMSF. Good luck, but it is anyone’s guess.