I am starting to think that we will just have to wait until the end of January when paper copies are mailed! :-L
@suzyQ7 It is confusing but to answer your question, no they are not the same. User percentile national is your user percent based on your psat score (cr/w + math). SI percentile is the percent range your SI index fell in.
To further demonstrate that they are two different things, the boy who made a 207 and 99 percent SI percentile, only had a 1320 total psat score but reading/writing was much higher than math and since it counts 2/3, thus the higher SI index. His PSAT user percentile index on his score report is 98%, but his SI index is 99%, of course to account for his SI is stronger than his psat score since his reading/writing counted mre, and in his total psat score R/W counts equal to math. i think for NMSF SI percentile is the one to be concerned with, and that is on your GC’s page.
@miottawa @CollageWhat I didn’t get my access code yet and neither did my friends in school. However, I remember someone in this forum saying that CB will release them today at 5:30 PM, but I don’t know according to what time zone. Anyhow, good luck! Stay Strong!
This is ridiculous! If CB can’t get everyone’s scores updated by the same time then don’t advertise online score postings! Everytime I look, no scores, never received the promised email, my school id doesn’t work, guidance counselor has nothing, are you freaking kidding me?! Yeah, let’s just randomly post a couple million student’s score reports online then leave the other half in the dark and give those scoreless students TERRIBLE customer service when they try to figure out the problem. Oh yeah, let’s also mystify how we rank each student; giving two kids with identical scores a 20 point difference score index, possibly ruining one’s chances of NMSF qualification. I’m so done; college board is so unprofesssional it’s sickening. Is it really that hard to efficiently post scores at a certain time? If they’re behind or having issues, is it THAT hard to send out a notice letting us know that they are doing what they can?! And they wonder why everyone is switching over to the ACT (especially class of 17ers)… GET IT TOGETHER COLLEGE BOARD. UGH.
-Sorry for ranting
Agreed! I find the ACT easier anyways.
@gasenioryear which percentile is for the SI Index?
@destinedforharvard and @ speedy2019 It is called the SI National percentile and it can only be viewed on GC’s page.
@TheLandOfArielle I am SO SO SORRY your scores are not up. You have looked at college board quickstart?Question… did your student enter different email from before. if so, try creating neww account under that email and see if that works.
Also yes it is VERY unfair that students with lower scores get higher index. In fact the student with SI 207 has a score of 1320… my son scored 100 points higher…1420… but has an SI only two points higher…209, because my son did better in math and other student did better in reading.
Oh ok so 99th user percentile isn’t what matters! What’s the lowest number out of 228 that was 99th SI?
Ok, I’m going to give my opinion/rant and hopefully be done with this. WHY DOES EVERYONE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ENGLISH COUNTING DOUBLE?!? If anyone should have a problem with this, it should be me, because I scored higher on math and thus have a middle of the road SI for my total score. But you people do realize that the PSAT is a college benchmark test, right? And the majority of college courses, majors, etc. deal with English and not math. What about this isn’t clicking? Again, I scored higher on math, I’ve always been a math person; in fact, I scored 100 points higher on the actual SAT math than SAT CR. I have all the reason to be against the SI calculation, but it makes sense. There’s nothing unfair about it. So please, stop lambasting the College Board for this and think about it.
@destined4harvard $64,000 question you ask - no one knows what the lowest SI is 99%ile – guesses range from 209, 210 or so and 216 may have been thrown out too (seems high) but no way to “know” at this point - maybe in April when the commended cut off is revealed.
Ok because I got a 210 with a 1400/1520, but someone with a 1340/1520 or 1430/1520 could have scored a 210! I need to see my GC again. He had a sheet of highlighted percentiles for the SI Index which I thought were user percentiles, and my 210 was 99th, but someone with a 209 wasn’t highlighted…
The reading/writing counting double than math is not a change. It was like that for the old PSAT scoring system. I’m much stronger in math, but I still agree with the system. Reading and writing skills are used universally throughout any major in college, but math, not so much.
@tigerrocks13 I agree. This is nothing new. English skills have been 2/3 of the PSAT and SAT scores for 11 years. Math people should be happy that they are switching back to the 1600 system from the 2400 system. Most people don’t use much advanced math in their careers anyways. My parents who were English/humanities majors took 0 and 1 math courses in college respectively.
I really do wish CB had put more effort into publishing accurate percentiles. The more I learn about how the percentiles were chosen, the more dubious it seems. Just give the top 1% of the 1.5 million juniors a 99th percentile and ditch the whole “focus group” thing. It shouldn’t be that hard, and it would make their score report a whole lot more useful. Especially if they are reporting accurate SI percentiles to counselors anyways.
@CollageWhat Yes, we are having the same issue in CT! Very frustrating!
@Studious99 How did CB choose the percentiles?
@gasenioryear Yes I have looked at the Quickstart. I’ve been checking periodically since Thursday thinking that it just took time to process or something, but no, nothing. Also I have only one email that I am positive I entered on test day and it is the same email linked to my CB account; the only thing that shows up is my PSAT scores from 2014 in my sophomore year. I wouldn’t be upset if CB just said that they would START posting scores on the 7th and gave themselves a realistic 2 week window to finish posting or whatever, but they promised that all scores would be up by the 7th OR all students would have received a code by noon today, which they didn’t live up too. Also I’m sorry to hear about your son’s situation. This whole standardized testing experience is just so stressful and i’ll be so glad when it’s all over.
@CA1543 I though @gasenioryear said that his GC had a sheet from CB that said the lowest 99th percentile SI was 207.
@gasenioryear did I interpret your posting incorrectly?
@YoohooAddict explanation from the score report:
“Nationally representative percentiles are derived via a research study sample of U.S. students in 11th grade, weighted to represent all 11th grade U.S. students, regardless of whether they typically take the PSAT/NMSQT and PSAT 10. For example, a student’s score in the 75th percentile means that 75% of the nationally representative group of 11th grade U.S. students would have had scores at or below that student’s score.”
“User group percentiles are derived via a research study sample of U.S. students in 11th grade, weighted to represent 11th grade students who typically take the PSAT/NMSQT and PSAT 10. For example, a student’s score in the 75th percentile means that 75% of the user group of 11th grade U.S. students would have had scores at or below that student’s score.”
The percentiles were determined using a small sample size, not the data from the entire test-taking population, which they have had access to for months now. My guess is that the percentiles are pretty accurate overall, but they can’t be counted on as absolute truth. They are just an educated guess on how the percentiles will turn out, based on a small group.
Can someone post the PSAT questions here for those of us who didn’t get our scores yet so we can check the answers? I have one answer sheet that was posted here earlier on.
@micgeaux. you interpreted correctly…@CA1543 must have not read my comment.I saw the spreadsheet myself -GC showed it to me. So i am not mistaken. SI National percentile- My son had SI 209 and 99 %. another student had SI 207 and 99 %. Next student SI was in the low 190’s… big gap. So don’t know any scores to help with the transition from 99 to 98 percentile.