@Speedy2019https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/data-layout-psat-nmsqt-psat-10-esr.pdf
Wow. The college board can write a 52 page document “explaining” the score reports to the GC’s, with all kinds of silly life predictions based on 15 or so multiple choice questions the students answered in a hurry, but they can’t make a simple percentile chart of the actual percentiles from their groups of 1.5 million+ students–not some silly focus group prediction percentile–and use decimal places and post this on the web? Maybe they need to hire a middle school student as an intern for a few hours to do this for them.
So, if I understand correctly, there is no real percentile data. All numbers from all sources are coming from some comparison to some small focus group study. The real data is there but they aren’t going to analyze it or release it so that we can do the math.
@lmjdad1 I’ll probably be putting Bama as my choice also (assuming that 220 is high enough for NMSF in Florida) even though I’m hoping for other options also. Congrats and roll tide. What state are you in?
I honestly feel that this year’s exam was way too easy based on this info (my school has historically only had a few nmsf every year) because these were only 4 friends in my math class that I asked. However, all of them did report a 760 Math (38 SI).
@pillowspillows I agree that the test was easier this year. However, the knowledge gap for me between sophomore and junior year is astronomical. I’m going to assume that you and all of your friends are pretty smart people. I got roughly a 206 last go around and a 220 this time. I don’t attribute any of that to the easiness of the test; I attribute that to the knowledge leap. And not to mention, every single friend that I consider smart at my school that has told me their score was below a 1300. Granted, my school has only had one NMF ever, but we’re a very good school for ACT scores (not SAT… just the learning/teaching style).
@lmjdad1 Well my dad and brother are both alumni, and with the ACT score, I have full tuition. And I’m hoping that the 220 will be good enough so that I can have a guaranteed (almost)) full ride somewhere. I’m really wanting a scholarship for UVA or ND, but there’s no guarantees by any means. That’s why having the NMF-Alabama fallback would be very nice.
@mathyone, that is my understanding, percentiles are based on a research study - for the overall score out of 1520. Both the so called “National” and “User” numbers. However, we don’t know about the SI percentile numbers given to GC. I’m hoping those are REAL, CALCULATED numbers.
@tigerrocks13 That makes sense, but the sheer increases (especially for those who scored lower last year) in scores seem a bit too extreme. But again, it’s possible that they were simply the 4 of the smartest juniors at my school and everyone else did not do as well.
speedy2019, so given the data layout are you indicating the the GCs around the country have all received this
data and for boxes 735/736 they would know already each students National Selection Index perecentile? If so that’s crazy that they don’t tell us the numbers.
West Michigan - STILL.NO.SCORES, The site is still asking for access code which we have not received. I am so sick of this screwed up organization not delivering on their promises. I have talked with Customer Service 4 times this week and each time they assure me we will receive the scores the next day.
@pillowspillows Many people have huge differences (30 points or more) between their PSAT score taken as a sophomore vs. their Junior PSAT score. Therefore, your logic is flawed IMO. Almost everyone I know had a huge jump in scores from freshmen to sophomore and then to junior.
I am also in West Michigan and this is insane! I just keep hearing use the access code in your email or from the guidance counselor. But they don’t have the code!
@pillowspillows Yeah, just remember the demographic you’re asking. If those 4 are all top 10, then it’s obviously skewed. All 5 that I asked were top 25, but even there scores were all below 1300.
When I log in, it only shows my 2014 score. My information is correct when I click Add Score(s). It doesn’t recognize my Student ID and I have no “access code” to input. My counselor didn’t have it and I never received it via email. Called Friday and they got rid of me by saying the code will be emailed by Sat. noon. It never arrived and their office is closed the weekend of the scores release…great. Anyone else dealing with this?
@websensation I thought about that too,but then I talked to seniors in my school’s calc BC class (which I assume are some the smartest students in my school) about their PSAT scores sophomore and junior year. Most had scores jump from 190’s to 200’s and one guy even said he decreased about 10 points. Only one nmsf in that class.
I assume that you and students at not only your school but many others are much more prepared for the PSAT (considering that you guys take it 9th, 10th and 11th grades) which may explain the huge increases.
Students at my school don’t seem to be as prepared (or care) but did relatively much better on the new psat which makes me think that the new psat was indeed much easier. Of course, maybe my school is just an anomaly and therefore not representative of Alabama or the nation.
