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You have a 2390 SAT score and you got REJECTED SCEA?! W T F!!!</p>
<p>ps. SAT ftw!!</p>
<p>wow millancad, congrats on MIT that’s amazing! 
and congrats to lapras on brown.</p>
<p>btw I hate to refuel the fire but millancad wrote on her MIT EA decision post:
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I hope no one at school thinks it’s just because I’m URM. <a href=“mifune%20this%20is%20mostly%20for%20you”>/quote</a> the fact that upon receiving her acceptance to MIT, one of the first things she thought of was whether people would demean her acceptance because of her race. SEE PEOPLE!! ;)</p>
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<p>Haha, I’m a national circuit LD debater, but, I do policy at a few local/regional tournaments just to practice speed and technical work 
Love them both to death.</p>
<p><a href=“mifune%20this%20is%20mostly%20for%20you”>QUOTE</a> the fact that upon receiving her acceptance to MIT, one of the first things she thought of was whether people would demean her acceptance because of her race. SEE PEOPLE!!
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<p>A large amount of people who demean the acceptance of minorities to Ivies are jealous white kids who were flat-out rejected from their top choice(s) and are trying to rationalize their own perceived superiority and why they themselves are still the more deserving applicant.</p>
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<p>Of course affirmative action has this detrimental impact. I taught myself aspects quantum mechanics and developed an equation to model the probability for photons to undergo quantum tunneling in my bedroom. I got several awards and even got published in a national publication, and along with my application I sent in my research paper. So people at my school were surprised when a person ranked only 13 in our class got accepted to Yale, and their logical conclusion was that it was because I was black.</p>
<p>Every person wants their accomplishments to be acknowledged and even later people admitted I was qualified to get into Yale because I was ranked 11th in my state for extemporaneous speaking (domestic of course ;)). </p>
<p>Looking back on my application I don’t think I have any reason to doubt my qualifications for Yale.</p>
<p>^Right, but other people may doubt you nonetheless. Therein lies the problem</p>
<p>The real question is why should I, or any other URM, care about what other people think?</p>
<p>It’s not even a case of AA.</p>
<p>SCORES AREN’T THE ONLY ADMISSIONS FACTOR!
Relax people, they had great EC’s and probably great essays/recommendations.
Their diversity (not necessarily ethnically) brings a lot to the table.</p>
<p>Remember, colleges want to better their campuses. I think these kids would enhance Yale’s culture and add a lot to the community. Even if they were white. </p>
<p>If you actually read their accomplishments, they’re really profound…no matter their skin color.</p>
<p>“CONGRATULATIONS TO THE QUADS FOR THE ACHIEVEMENT!”</p>
<p>haven’t seen that once.
just goes to show how whenever black people make an accomplishment it’s torn down.
extremely pathetic.</p>
<p>in the context of college admissions, a black person getting in to Yale is not quite as impressive as an Asian person getting in to Yale…it is not an equal playing field</p>
<p>^congrats on wharton! thats awesome!</p>
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oh you shouldn’t. but they do. people care what other people think. you can’t argue with that</p>
<p>Asian achievements aren’t impressive period. The majority of Asian applicants to the Ivy League are high achievers…they don’t stand out.</p>
<p>^^You’re mistaken it is not that impressive to YOU, but to millions of other people who recognize that it takes a lot of hard work and dedication to get into a place like Yale they recognize that it is impressive no matter who does it.</p>
<p>And considering that you go to Penn I really don’t think you should be insulting people about what is or is not impressive.</p>
<p>^Getting in to Penn is pretty impressive too, the acceptance rate there is like 13%ish…but a black person getting in to Yale is just as impressive as an Asian person getting to Yale. Many Whites and Asians have this preconceived notion that all Blacks are significantly assisted by AA, but I’d be willing to bet that even without AA most of those black students would still be attending Yale.</p>
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<p>That doesn’t make it a valid reason to refute affirmative action. People doubting my accomplishments didn’t hinder me from getting good grades at Yale. People doubting Sotomayor didn’t stop her from becoming a Supreme Court Justice. People’s doubts don’t really impact minorities in any type of tangible way. Sure AA does do a blow to one’s confidence if you allow it, but that doesn’t actually affect the outcome of success for minorities so it doesn’t matter.</p>
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<p>I know that but getting into Penn is not nearly as impressive as getting into Yale. Considering that Choklitrain got accepted ED when the acceptance rate was 32%, which compared to the 13.9 percent acceptance rate at Yale SCEA then his Penn acceptance is on the order of 130.2% less impressive.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong, Penn is a GREAT school and I strongly considering ED there last year, but Choklitrain is mistaken to denigrate the accomplishments of those who get into Yale. And as a black man it is even more offensive to me.</p>
<p>^Wow, I didn’t know that the ED acceptance rate there was so high, that’s startlingly high.</p>
<p>I disliked Sotomayor more for the “wise Latina woman” comment and her less than enlightened ruling in the Ricci v. Destefano case, and less because I thought she didn’t deserve the colleges she had attended.</p>
<p>Also, Dbate, black kids are admitted to Yale at a >20% rate (a conservative estimate, if I remember correctly - it might be as high as 33%), so your acceptance isn’t necessarily much more impressive than his.</p>
<p>^true story. I read an article (someone from this thread linked it) that showed acceptance rates to the ivies by race and it went
native america>black>hispanic>>white>asian</p>
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<p>First off, Wharton admissions =/= Penn admissions overall. A decent number of people at Wharton turned down HYP, which doesn’t happen much at Penn’s other three colleges, and the Wharton ED admissions rate is closer to 15% than it is to the 30% rate you cited. And if you ever want to go to Wall Street, Wharton>Yale. Secondly, you come off as extremely immature with that comment. If you think that going to a certain college automatically elevates you above everyone attending colleges that some crappy magazine considers “lesser,” then you have no idea how the world works. Many of the companies you would love to work for are headed by CEO’s with diplomas from Penn State or Ohio State or UW-Madison. But I guess you don’t care what those CEO’s think, seeing as you’re so far above them?</p>