RD to GSP

<p>i feel really sick right now because i got my acceptance to gsp and rejection to cas letter today. i don’t know how i feel about it because i feel like i did something really wrong to get this. i know my standardized test scores werent the best (1230-630 math and 600 reading on sat and 25 on act) but i am after all number one in my class out of like 282 and did an exchange program and have plenty of extracurriculars. my dad and mom both want me to go to nyu so i don’t know what to do because i havent heard back from my other top schools yet. i knew it was a long shot but still i thought i could have got in to cas.</p>

<p>omgomgomg they are sending GSP stuff now…</p>

<p>just realize there are hundreds of people out there who wouldn’t give a second thought and accept their GSP letters, but I guess it’s different when you look down versus looking up.</p>

<p>I just got my GSP today, and my parents absolutely refuse to let me go because they think it’s ridiculous that they have to give all that money for a school that isn’t even legitimate. They say it’s a rip off and I’m better off going somewhere else. I am a little sad that I didn’t get into CAS. I thought I had a pretty good chance too.</p>

<p>Article from former GSP student? –> [General</a> Studies Program not the runt of the litter - Undefined Section](<a href=“http://media.www.nyunews.com/media/storage/paper869/news/1997/01/01/UndefinedSection/General.Studies.Program.Not.The.Runt.Of.The.Litter-2394402.shtml]General”>http://media.www.nyunews.com/media/storage/paper869/news/1997/01/01/UndefinedSection/General.Studies.Program.Not.The.Runt.Of.The.Litter-2394402.shtml)</p>

<p>Oh wait…is this not allowed?</p>

<p>"General Studies Program not the runt of the litter
Anna CareyIssue date: 1/1/97 Section: Undefined Section</p>

<p>For a long time now, NYU has prided itself on being a liberal school. We claim to be accepting, open-minded, cultured individuals. We flaunt our liberalism like a Long Island girl with a new Prada bag. We hold ““Explore Your ******* Workshops”” and put S&M goddesses on the cover of our school newspaper. Yet there is one thing that will never be fully accepted here: the ““community college”” of NYU. The red-headed stepchild of schools. It’s the General Studies Program, or GSP.</p>

<p>Perhaps some of you are wondering what exactly GSP is. That was what my College of Arts and Science adviser inquired last Tuesday when I was desperate for help rearranging my schedule. Students in the program were initially deferred enrollment into the school in which they originally applied for any number of reasons. They were then offered the opportunity to attend a two-year liberal arts school within NYU, GSP, allowing students to fulfill requirements freshman year and then transfer into the school of their choice for junior year. Simple enough.</p>

<p>Those of you who are aware of the program have probably made fun of it at some point. It has become a scapegoat among students here, giving every student an outlet for his insecurities. The NYU publication The Plague put ““enrollment in GSP”” on a list of ““Things to Do with the Broome Street Fetus,”” right above ““oven mitt.”” I laughed through the pain.</p>

<p>So I was surprised during the break when my father, the encouraging soul that he is, showed me an article he had found in the New York Times about my school, my General Studies Program. Here it was, here was our recognition, our acclaim. I skimmed through the body of the article, most of which was simply describing the program, and was immediately drawn to the picture of Robert Fitterman, a prose composition professor in the program. Surely he would right the wrongs done to us, he could set the disparaging record straight. But instead of using this opportunity to highlight all the great aspects of an already scrutinized program, he said simply, ““The students of the General Studies Program know that they were rejected from the University and have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.””</p>

<p>Et tu, Robert Fitterman?</p>

<p>It seems as though everyone at this school is either consciously or subconsciously prejudiced against this program. I find myself repressing my feelings of inadequacy, telling people I’m in CAS even though I won’t officially be registered until September. These unfair judgments seem to stem from three fallacies that the student body has conjured up.</p>

<p>Common Misconception No. 1: Students in GSP were rejected from NYU. It’s surprising that one of our own professors has fallen victim to this trap. Let’s use some common sense here, people: If we were rejected from NYU, we wouldn’t be taking classes here. We wouldn’t be living here. The truth is we were deferred enrollment from the schools we originally applied to: CAS, Stern, Tisch or Steinhardt.</p>

<p>Common Misconception No. 2: Classes within the program are ““easy.”” Our syllabi contain just as much work as CAS syllabi, but we are always aware of what is necessary to get a good grade. Perhaps one day GSP alumni will write their own book; we could title it ““The Dummies’ Guide to a Well-Balanced Life”” and sell it at the bookstore to those of you who subscribe to the ““all work, no play”” philosophy.</p>

<p>Common Misconception No. 3: We, the students in the General Studies Program, are not as smart as you. How elitist, how closed-minded, how disgustingly conservative. Students of NYU, I implore you, stop taking your inadequacies out on a great liberal arts program and start being the accepting university you claim to be.</p>

<p>Anna Carey is a contributor to the Washington Square News. Direct all responses to <a href="mailto:wsnopinion@yahoo.com">wsnopinion@yahoo.com</a>."</p>

<p>Another article from last year by a CAS student</p>

<p>

</p>

<p>I got into GSP today and I’m not sure what to think.</p>

<p>Can I legitimately tell people that I got into NYU?</p>

<p>I would say, yes.<br>
I sure as hell would.</p>

<p>I am praying to get into GSP. Does the acceptance come in a small or big envelope?</p>

<p>haha, so basically, everyone who doesn’t hear in the next week or so knows that they’re either in or out? </p>

<p>it seems crazy that they can decide GSP so soon, it seems like who to GSP and who to reject would be the hardest part, and would be figured out last.</p>

<p>I got GSPd, and have now sucessfully completed the program (current NYU student). I can answer any questions you guys may have.</p>

<p>Couple pointers…</p>

<p>While GSP sounds kind of obnoxious when reading the letter, truth be told it is more or less the same as CAS. You must take required classes in CAS, and you are taking pretty much all of those classes in GSP. </p>

<p>For example, people in CAS must take writing the essay I and II. You will take Writing I and II. etc.</p>

<p>Your GSP classes will be smaller, and are generally relatively easy. You will feel like a student at nyu in every way possible, even taking classes at the nyu cas building. </p>

<p>If you want to go to NYU and applied to CAS originally, there is no reason not to take this program. I was skeptical at first too, but all in all GSP is a huge body of students and not some “second class society.”</p>

<p>So have all GSP letters been sent out? Or is this just a first wave? And do we know how long generally the RD letters come out after GSP?</p>

<p>kinda makes me all jittery…all i got in the mail today was the student news thing… <em>prays</em></p>

<p>btw…congratulations to all who got into GSP :)</p>

<p>dreams16-- The letter was in a big envelope, but not like standard manilla envelope size, a little smaller. It just has a letter telling you that you didn’t get into CAS but that you got GSP, a booklet about the program and a long list of FAQs (the booklet makes the envelope pretty thick).</p>

<p>JJim1919-- Thank you for this perspective! Made me feel better about this whole thing. Being a (former?) GSP student, would you say there was any kind of stigma that went along with being in the program?</p>

<p>wait, do they always send out GSP letters out before RD acceptances? so, if you don’t receive anything about GSP can you assume you were rejected admission? gahhh, this is freaking me out. i read earlier in this thread something about different regions of the US receiving letters at different times, so i’m located on the east coast, PA, if that helps.</p>

<p>I got my letter today deferring me from Gallatin and acceptance to GSP. I feel like GSP is the sh**ty little sister of NYU. The most annoying part is: I picked Gallatin so I can study what I want to study, then they put me in GSP where I have my next two years lined up for me. No way.</p>

<p>I have a 4.1 at HS, 4.0 with 25 college units at CC
1950 SAT
Congressional Internship
Clinton Campaign Intern
A in Class at G-town</p>

<p>Won largest student film festival in nation.</p>

<p>I am very ****ed right now.</p>

<p>There really isnt any “stigma.” Some people might think it is the back way into NYU, and people will sometimes joke about it (depending on who your friends are), but honestly I dont think anyone seriously cares. There is not stigma in the sense of the word which you are referring to. </p>

<p>The student body is so large, you cannot expect to have classes with your friends anyway. You will make friends in GSP, and you will make friends outside GSP. No one is going to talk to you about your classes anyway (especially when you are in intro classes), so honestly I dont think anyone cares.</p>

<p>After the first semester you can take classes in CAS or whatever school you want in addition to your GSP classes, and by the time you are actually pursuing your major you will be sitting along CAS kids doing the same thing. The only difference is that you take your required classes in GSP, they take theirs in CAS (and yes you might have 1 or 2 more required classes, but its really no big deal).</p>

<p>aramin-sounds like you got a raw deal! I don’t know the Gallatin process. Could it be that they didn’t like your proposed field of study or something? Also I didn’t think NYU deferred (especially for a RD applicant) how does that work??? My guess if you applied ED you would have gotten in no problem. I know it’s been asked before, but what if someone goes into GSP and doesn’t make the grades? do they have to transfer to another school with $100,000 worth of debt? I don’t think I’ve read of that happening to anyone.</p>

<p>Im rediculously excited I just got into GSP.
I really didn’t expect to get into NYU at all.</p>

<p>GPA = 3.6
SAT’s= 1280
SAT II= literature-680 spanish-650
volunteering & working=
I have two part time jobs
recieved my silver award in girl scouts
volunteer for camp good days and special times
helped teach an English as a second language class for a month in the summer
mentored for three years
orientation advisor at my high school
was the treasurer of make a difference club</p>

<p>I’m going for english and I had a really good essay, but other than that I don’t really know what got me in.</p>