<p>i got my gsp letter yesterday… i’m freaking excited! i wasn’t even expecting to get in at all…</p>
<p>2020 SAT
690, 620, 570 subject tests
3.62 GPA
top 5%</p>
<p>buttttt… although i’m in band and track i’ve never had a leadership position…
oh and i’m hispanic (i guess that helped)</p>
<p>:D i was seriously counting on being rejected…
can’t wait for next year fellow gspers!</p>
<p>congrats mmcheezitsyay! just wondering if your your gpa is weighted or unweighted?</p>
<p>it’s unweighted… it was a 3.56 before my fall semester though… and thanks! good luck if you haven’t heard from them yet!</p>
<p>The New York Times</p>
<p>Math Suggests College Frenzy Will Soon Ease</p>
<p>By ALAN FINDER
Published: March 9, 2008</p>
<p>High school seniors nationwide are anxiously awaiting the verdicts from the colleges of their choice later this month. But though it may not be of much solace to them, in just a few years the admissions frenzy is likely to ease. Its simply a matter of demographics.</p>
<p>Projections show that by next year or the year after, the annual number of high school graduates in the United States will peak at about 2.9 million after a 15-year climb. The number is then expected to decline until about 2015. Most universities expect this to translate into fewer applications and less selectivity, with most students probably finding it easier to get into college.</p>
<p>For the high school graduate, this becomes a buyers market, said Daniel M. Fogel, president of the University of Vermont.</p>
<p>That wont help Charlie Cotton, a senior at Madison High School in New Jersey. He has the grades and scores to aim for the nations elite universities, yet in the hyper-competitive world of college admissions, his chances of winning a spot at his top picks like Middlebury, Dartmouth and Oberlin are highly uncertain. When his sister, Emma, who is in eighth grade, applies to college, she is expected to face a less frantic landscape with fewer rivals.</p>
<p>The demographic changes include sharp geographic, social and economic variations. Experts anticipate, for example, a decline in affluent high school graduates, and an increase in poor and working-class ones. In response, colleges and universities are already increasing their recruitment of students in high-growth states and expanding their financial-aid offerings to low-income students with academic potential.</p>
<p>Still, some admissions deans and independent consultants say the struggle to win entry to the most prestigious universities is likely to continue.</p>
<p>The ones that have the strongest brand identification are still going to be awash in applications, but 99 percent of us are going to see declines, said Robert J. Massa, vice president for enrollment at Dickinson College.</p>
<p>But other admissions officials have a different view. Lee A. Coffin, dean of undergraduate admissions at Tufts University, thinks top students might well find less competition. We could see something resembling the admissions environment of the early 1990s, in which the most talented students might have an easier time, he said.</p>
<p>While many admissions deans expect to look nostalgically on what has become, for them at least, a golden era in college admissions, some say that a letup in the admissions craze might not be so bad.</p>
<p>I actually think its kind of good, said Monica C. Inzer, dean of admission and financial aid at Hamilton College. We need a shakeup. I think the anxiety families are feeling right now is not the way we planned it.</p>
<p>The extent to which admissions become less selective may depend, many admissions deans say, on whether they can successfully alter their recruiting by reaching out to a broader range of students, with a more national and even international approach.</p>
<p>I think that those institutions that decide to run the model as its been so successfully run over the last decade and a half will see their admission rates go up, said Kurt M. Thiede, vice president for enrollment management at Bucknell.</p>
<p>Nationally, the population decline is projected to be relatively gentle, with the number of high school graduates expected to fall in the Northeast and Midwest, while continuing to increase in the South and Southwest.</p>
<p>The number of white high school graduates will go down nationally, and the number of African-American graduates will remain relatively steady. But the number of Hispanic and Asian-American graduates will increase sharply, according to projections by the Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education, whose demographic estimates are highly regarded by admissions officials.</p>
<p>And so admissions officials are scrambling to attract Hispanic and low-income students, who have been underrepresented at the most prestigious private and public universities. Colleges in the Northeast and Midwest have particularly intensified their efforts to strengthen alumni networks and make themselves better known at high schools in fast-growing states like Texas, Arizona, Nevada, Florida and Colorado. Cornell sent an admissions officer to live full-time in Los Angeles.</p>
<p>Its kind of a demographic perfect storm in some ways, said Robert S. Clagett, dean of admissions at Middlebury College. Because where the increases are going to come are in states where the college-going rate is lower and where those who do go to college primarily stay in the state.</p>
<p>Colby College and a number of others in the North have also begun to offer airplane tickets for low-income high school students and their parents from Sun Belt states to visit their campuses. Last summer, Middlebury and Williams flew in 27 college counselors from states where the colleges are not well known.</p>
<p>It was nice for me to see the campuses and say to our kids, This is what they are like, said Sharmon Goodman, director of college counseling at One Voice, a nonprofit group in the Los Angeles area that identifies and prepares low-income students with the academic potential for elite colleges.</p>
<p>Many colleges anticipate having to dig deeper to attract more low-income students. This is among the prime reasons why many of the most selective institutions have been in a race to significantly expand their financial aid to poor and working-class students.</p>
<p>When Harvard recently increased financial aid packages, it wanted to send a really clear message out there to people who would not ordinarily apply to college, much less apply to a school like this, said William R. Fitzsimmons, dean of admissions and financial aid at Harvard College.</p>
<p>Our theory is if were really going to succeed, and not just Harvard, at increasing the college-going rates of people in the bottom quarter and bottom half of the economic ladder, then youre going to have to be really aggressive in your outreach, Mr. Fitzsimmons said.</p>
<p>The new recruiting strategies take many forms. Bucknell, Cornell, Amherst and the University of Michigan are among eight colleges and universities to receive grants from the Jack Kent Cooke Foundation to create partnerships with community colleges; the goal is for some of the most promising graduates of two-year schools to transfer to the elite universities for their last two years of college.</p>
<p>Concern about the coming demographic shifts is also partly behind a surge in recruiting international students. At Colby College, for example, more than 20 percent of the 4,800 applicants this year were from outside the United States.</p>
<p>Back in New Jersey, Mr. Cotton, 17, checks the mailbox every day to see which colleges will offer him admission. Theres a lot of pressure, he said. Even if youre qualified, youre not always going to get a chance to get into these schools, which is the scary part.</p>
<p>Mr. Cotton, who has applied to 10 colleges, said he was pleased to learn that the competitive frenzy is expected to calm down. Its good for my sister, he said. Definitely Im a little jealous.</p>
<p>wow i’m jealous of the younger kids now after reading that. lol.</p>
<p>GSP as well. NYU was one of my first choices. </p>
<p>Do GSP kids get financial aid that is NOT need based?</p>
<p>asdfjl1 did you just get gsp today…would you mind posting stats?</p>
<p>anyone here going to the info session on saturday? :)</p>
<p>i’m going to the wednesday one</p>
<p>I’m a gsp mom. My daughter is a first year and very happy. She gets to live in NYC! Some of her classes she likes a lot, and some were a bit disappointing. She made the dean’s list, and plans to transfer to Gallatin for gender/postcolonial studies. She’s made some good friends, she’s planning to go to NYU in Ghana next spring. She had originally applied to CAS so I’m thrilled that she has plans for Gallatin. She really only has 1 semester after this of required classes, then she can take mostly electives. As a parent, I’m amazed at her personal development this past year, and I think gsp has been a good program for her–structured and small enough to get her established and confident. Academically she feels she could be somewhat more challenged, but soon enough she will be taking those classes. I’m glad she doesn’t seem overly stressed and has time for other activities and is very healthy overall. As a parent I want my young adult child to be balanced, not just single-goal-driven. Socially, being in gsp doesn’t present any problems at all. She has friends across all the colleges. I think gsp is a great program and for some kids, the perfect place to start college.</p>
<p>Thank you ahimsa for the positive view of GSP. I am a mom of a GSP accepted daughter and I’ve followed this thread with interest. It’s too bad that there is so much negative banter about the program, especially because it comes from mostly uninformed sources. She is still waiting for news from other schools but the prospects of studying at NYU are thrilling none the less.</p>
<p>3.0 gpa after the sophomore year, and then you’re into the school of your choice. and you get an associates degree after your sophomore year</p>
<p>my d got into GSP for Tisch. it seems pretty good because for Tisch they enter as a sopohomore so only 1 year of GSP. i was wondering if the GSP studetns get treated differently once in their major - any insight?</p>
<p>I doubt anyone would even know or care if you were in GSP once you transfer to your final school.</p>
<p>i’ve been told at nyu it stands for “generally stupid people” and the GSP’ers are looked down upon as “not being good enough to get in.” I would appreciate any insight into the program.</p>
<p>Just got back to my hotel from the information meeting I attended for GSP today. I have to say that any uncertainties I was feeling about the program were laid at rest by the end of the meeting; I highly suggest attending one or at the very least visiting the school if you have the opportunity.</p>
<p>A lot of questions were asked by different people, including ones that I had not thought to ask yet. </p>
<p>To those worried about the perception of GSP to the other colleges, I think it’s important to note something that was said by the dean of GSP. When asked a question about how GSP students were perceived by the student body, he noted that within every school of NYU there are jokes about the other schools. His examples were that people make fun of Stern students, talking about how they wear three piece suits to the gym. That people make fun of Tisch students, talking about how many piercings are necessary for admittance. Whatever students of NYU say about those in GSP, it is important to note that they are jokes, not said to attack the members of the program, but intended to amuse. Furthermore, I believe that the nature of college is one that is naturally more accepting than high school; frankly, I don’t think most college students will care about whether you’re in GSP or Stern.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don’t really consider not being accepted into my college of choice (CAS, majoring in history) as an insult at all. The fact that the accepted students of NYU, including those accepted in GSP, were chosen from somewhere around 40,000 applicants speaks boldly enough of the quality of those accepted (once again, including those in GSP). Furthermore, it doesn’t really bother me at all that for the first two years of my college experience I’ll be participating in a program that is for those not accepted into their colleges of choice; the meeting I attended made me believe that the quality of the program was just as good as the alternative, attending a different school (in my case, probably Tulane) as part of the regular college. The opportunities presented to the students of GSP (especially the options abroad) have led me to believe that it is every bit as respectable as CAS, or any of the other colleges.</p>
<p>I haven’t really made a decision yet, as I’m still waiting to hear back from a few schools, but after visiting NYU for the GSP information meeting, I can say that it is definitely at the top of my list thus far. I’m still waiting to hear back from Southern Cal and UC Berkeley, although I would probably only seriously consider Berkeley over NYU.</p>
<p>is anyone going to the admissions reception on april 12 in chicago?</p>
<p>guess there are no more GSP referrals being sent out =/</p>
<p>I got GSP…does it have any effect on my future?</p>
<p>it won’t have much effect because you will eventually enter your NYU college…when did you receive your referreral?</p>