Reasons why you'll be rejected

<p>I have a 2150 SAT and am half-asian, but still got in. Don’t worry! :)</p>

<p>Felix- undoubtedly what you said is true. But what is the point is listing why you’d be rejected?! That’s just depressing yourself.
At least from my point of view.</p>

<p>Asian
No interview
Mediocre stats
Already know I’ll be rejected</p>

<p>@kaira07</p>

<p>Haha, my post wasn’t a response to yours. I’m sorry. I should have been more clear : )</p>

<p>But I think it might help for us to elaborate on why we’ll be rejected. It will help quicken the stages of grief should we be rejected, and increase the level of our surprise/bliss if we get accepted.</p>

<p>Dashing good looks.</p>

<p>My stats were pathetic. I mean, all of you think your stats are low? I’m way too embarrassed to even attempt to post mine.
But I did REALLY enjoy the essay I wrote. And my letters of recommendation were pretty cool. Beasted interview; but that only helps if I’m a competitive applicant. I don’t know, Harvard was pretty much an ultimate reach.</p>

<p>Let’s see what happens.</p>

<p>my stats are pretty darn low too for such a school … mind posting yours ? :P</p>

<p>Hey guys! This is actually my first time posting, but I’ve been lurking for a bit. I thought I’d post because I actually do feel that this thread will help ease the pain of being rejected, as I am predicting will happen.</p>

<p>1) Low SATs and mediocre SATIIs. I’m not a very strong test taker.
2) Okay interview. I was very nervous, as it was my first ever interview for anything. It wasn’t a disaster, but it was not brilliant either.
3) Not an overwhelming amount of ECs.</p>

<p>I really liked my essays, though. Writing is my strong suit, and I hope that that quality was impressive. I also had a quirky program that I participated in, though it is no way prestigious. Recs were strong, I feel and my guidance counselor has been very supportive. At any rate I am not expecting a miracle, though it would be greatly appreciated! The two Ivies I applied to are very high reach schools.
A little off-topic, but what is the typical status for Hispanics regarding acceptance? Do they have a worse/better chance of being accepted than other minorities?</p>

<p>And before anyone says anything, I am not relying on being a minority at all. I’m just curious since I’ve seen people here on CC who say being an Asian or Indian can actually hinder their app. How does this work?</p>

<p>Even if i had ANY chances to get in Harvard… My Math Grades killed all of those dreams…
i have almost failing grades in there… and Harvard aren’t for failures…</p>

<p>Just a note to BmanBS2:
Harvard–in fact, any college—would relish that fact that you were in FFA. A wonderful organization and one that fosters maturity and problem-solving. Yay for you! Have faith!</p>

<p>Not to sidetrack this forum too much, but I’ll attempt the question.</p>

<p>You see, Asians as a general group are fairly homogeneous, they play in the orchestra, are in math club, found one club, and generally have high SAT scores. The thing is, there are so many Asians with similar stats, that for ex. getting a 2300 on the SAT is so normal. So, when it becomes time to decide, adcoms choose the whackier, more passion focused “other races’” applications. Elite universities dislike admitting cookie-cutter mold type people, who are literally interchangeable. Because Asian people tend to have more similarities than the next race, they are “punished” with an invisible quota. There was a study from somewhere that indicated being Asian on an elite college’s application pool = minus 150 pts on the SAT.</p>

<p>Sorry for a really jumbled paragraph.</p>

<p>Ah, I see. Thank you JoonBug.</p>

<p>^^That is ridiculous. Asians, like any other race of people, have a wide range of activities and pursuits. Infact, I would even say they have a wider range if only because every Asian country has such a different, vibrant culture that leads to a variety of skill sets. </p>

<p>The reason being an Asian is a disadvantage (apparently) in the admissions process is more likely because of simply the large number of extremely qualified applicants. The only way in which they’re similar is that Asians tend to be high achievers, and a lot apply. Do the math.</p>

<p>Get it? Asians? Do the math? eheh</p>

<p>Nothing too special. :(</p>

<p>pending bestiality charge :{</p>

<p>If I insulted any Asians here, my bad. The thing is, it’s an unjust stereotype-ish thing. I’m Asian myself and I feel that this “image” of Asians is pretty bs.</p>

<p>I just wanted to explain what probably goes through the minds of adcoms as they vote, and we should all note that adcom thinking is not necessarily equal to the truth.</p>

<p>And about the comment of a lot of Asians applying… It’s true. But a lot of people, of all different races partake in this process, don’t they?</p>

<p>scores and ethnicity :(</p>

<p>@JoonBug812</p>

<p>Unless Harvard adcoms are incompetent, they would have no reasonable opportunity to act in accordance with such stereotypes. After all, they’re the ones reading the applications. They know roughly the proportion of high-scoring Asians in orchestra just by reading through the applications. Stereotypes have nothing to do with admissions.</p>

<p>Though I agree with kaira07’s assertion that Asians are as diverse and as passionate as the next race, I do remember reading a post by Harvard interviewer Northstarmom about how a disproportionate number of Asians she interviews in New York play tennis and a string instrument. It’s undoubtedly true that Harvard wants to shape their incoming class in a certain way, and that probably precludes too many of the same type of applicants from being admitted. I don’t know the facts, but if there are a lot of Asians like that applying to Harvard, they shouldn’t all get in. But the principle does not work unfairly for Asians. There are “interchangeable” applications within every race, and the name of the game is the same for all applicants: stand out among the crowd. </p>

<p>But that doesn’t mean that “common” applications are overlooked for “wackier” applications. Dean Fitzsimmons himself described how the “cookie-cutter” applicants have been the staple of Harvard admissions for years. He said that ~1500 of the ~2100 applicants admitted are such applicants, which is the vast majority of the admit pool. </p>

<p>It’s simple – Harvard has an idea of what kind of class it wants, and picks the best applicants with that idea in mind.</p>