<p>It is perfectly legal to have a state resident quota on a college. Michigan, UVa, UNC-CH, Duke all have had and still have them. But I have not seen anything about Cornell’s statutory schools having any such quota. More kids from NY will apply and go to those schools because of the tuition discount. Does anyone know if there is any requirement or preference given to NYers?</p>
<p>how does duke, uva, umich, unc-ch get over the supreme court’s ruling that says quotas in college admissions are illegal?</p>
<p>i dont think there is a requirement but they do give some preference…now, can anyone tell me if i have an advantage or not? ( first generation , lived in india for a little over 10 years, NY resident applying to human ec )</p>
<p>I don’t know. I believe it was Michigan’s law school that went to the supreme court that came up with that ruling. But the ruling may have been limited to Affirmative Action and race; that quotas cannot be used that way. But the state of Michigan and the state of Virginia have quotas on their flagship schools as to how many out of stater they can have in terms of %. In fact Michigan was fined terribly for having too many out of staters one year. Though Duke is a private school, by charter it must have 13% of their students from the Carolinas (it used to be just from NC). Also there are many public and private schools that out and out say that they give some preference to in staters.</p>
<p>so am I actually at a disadvantage applying to ILR from Colorado?</p>
<p>it was UC Berkeley that went to the supreme court, though any semi-recent developments are beyond me</p>
<p>" “out there” states such as montana, wyoming, Idaho, kansas"</p>
<p>Maybe not as much of an edge as you might think.</p>
<p>I was living in an “out-there” state a while back, and was involved in alumni activities. They do alumni interviews for most of the area candidates.
I was curious to check up on the applicants I’d met, so I asked the alumni chapter head how the area kids wound up doing.</p>
<p>The two years I inquired, the precentage of kids who got in to Cornell from our area was virtually identical to Cornell’s aggregate admissions % for that year.</p>
<p>Whether those individuals were actually equally qualified vs. the rest of the applicant pool, I can’t say.</p>
<p>IIRC, in the book “A is for Admissions” the author describes the regional factor as being somewhat inconsequential at Dartmouth when she worked as an admissions officer there. Given its national appeal, she reported that they wound up getting adequate regional representation anyway, without much altering their admissions process to accomplish it.</p>
<p>It was Mich Law school more lately, and it specifically nixed quotas for AA. And from the posts I’ve read no one seems to know for sure if the statutory schools for Cornell have some NY bias or not. I have not read or heard anything definitive, just speculation. That there are more New Yorkers does not mean admissions gives them a boost.</p>
<p>As for the private schools at Cornell, since they are the same as any selective school in admissions, geographics could give a tip. I don’t think it is a hot hook, but it can make a difference. I know what Michele Hernandez says about the situation at Dartmouth, and her argument is that the %s area about the same from Idaho as from the Boston area. What she does not discuss is if those kids who make up that % from Idaho are as qualified as those from the Boston group. I have seen kids accepted from afar at schools that want a national population that would likely not be accepted if they were from a more competitive area. That you are judged according to who your peers are (meaning your school, your area, your state, your geographics) would indicate that it is tougher to be top in states where the academic competition is heavier. The national merit %s show this clearly as they put an actual numerical rating which no college will make public in admissions. So if just because 15% of Idaho applicants are accepted as are 15% of Bostonians, does not mean those 15% of the kids in Idaho are comparable to the Boston crowd. They may not have made the cut if they were from Boston with their resume.</p>
<p>cptofthehouse:
Perhaps this will clear up some confusion. I’ve posted this before, but it never hurts to repeat if necessary! Scroll down to post #4
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/212442-new-york-residency.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/212442-new-york-residency.html</a></p>