Religion in America

<p>Since this nation was founded by Deists, how did it become known as a "Christian" nation? Do not say that we're not a Christian nation, we are.. Since our founding fathers created the Constitution based of Deism, how did Christianity evolve around American's life? This nation was supposed to be free from religion, but yet it plays a major part in our society today. </p>

<p>"To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, God, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no God, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise: but I believe I am supported in my creed of materialism by Locke, Tracy, and Stewart. At what age of the Christian church this heresy of immaterialism, this masked atheism, crept in, I do not know. But a heresy it certainly is. Jesus told us indeed that 'God is a spirit,' but he has not defined what a spirit is, nor said that it is not matter. And the ancient fathers generally, if not universally, held it to be matter: light and thin indeed, an etherial gas; but still matter." --Thomas Jefferson.</p>

<p>I think we need another president that was similiar to Jefferson, Washington, and Lincoln. All who were not necessarily religious (although, I did hear that before Lincoln died he became Christian). </p>

<p>What is your inquiry about religion in America? Or in your country?</p>

<p>gotta go back to the earliest settlers, most were Quakers or other Christian denomination</p>

<p>So you can say that Christianity was the religion of the United States de facto by time the Declaration was created. However, disestablishment was set in place, therefore there are no official state religions or official "religion of the land".</p>

<p>Yeah, mainly protestants and quakers. Yet, our founding fathers were deists.</p>

<p>When India was ruled by the Mughals, it was still a Hindu nation. America has been a so-called Christian nation because the majority of its people have held to and its culture has been based in that religion.</p>

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This nation was supposed to be free from religion

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This is either very bad phrasing or completely untrue.
In addition to that, while the religious beliefs of the founding fathers remain not completely unknown, it is generally accepted that hardly all of them called themselves Deists.</p>

<p>The US wasn't suppossed to be free from religion at all, people came to practice religion freely</p>

<p>It plays a major part of society because many people are religious-but thats kind of obvious so i don't know if you needed that pointed out...</p>

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Yeah, mainly protestants and quakers. Yet, our founding fathers were deists.

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<p>Which was reflected in the fact that there is no official religion. Only reason I'd think why some people would call the U.S. a "Christian" nation is because the majority of the population are Christians.</p>

<p>I did not mean free from all religion. I just worded it badly. I'm not here to criticize religion (maybe I am), but it obviously did not do much good over the years. Slavery (it is a religious practice, started because of religion), Holocausts, killing of Jews during the Black Plague, etc..</p>

<p>Now I'm just talking about religion in general haha. Even the people dying in Isreal because the Islams and Jews are fighting over that one land (always forget the name). Where the Islamic "floating rock" and the Jew's church is near the same area and people are dying everyday because of it.</p>

<p>So you're talking about the reasons why people will fight over things that they believe in?</p>

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Slavery (it is a religious practice, started because of religion), Holocausts, killing of Jews during the Black Plague, etc..

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<p>Slavery was promoted mainly because it was economically feasible, as white southerners made massive amounts of profits from cheap labor and slave trade. Religion was a secondary justification only after Northern abolitionists condemned it as sin. And it DEFINITELY did not start because of religion.</p>

<p>Holocaust was caused by a twisted ideal of a sick autocrat, not sure how you can blame religion for that.</p>

<p>I'm just saying that religion in general has caused many conflicts over the years. The only thing that religion has ever brought is "hope", yet it has caused billions and billions of deaths along the way. I'm a realivist and I even find it obscured when a certain religion talks down about another religion's belief. Okay, you may think that your religion is "correct", that's fine, keep thinking that. Yet, you should not say, "Oh well your religion is false, you've grown up being taught the wrong thing". It's absolutely ridiculous. My opinion.</p>

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Okay, you may think that your religion is "correct", that's fine, keep thinking that. Yet, you should not say, "Oh well your religion is false, you've grown up being taught the wrong thing". It's absolutely ridiculous. My opinion.

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<p>Well then that's not the religion's fault. It's the person/group being myopic.</p>

<p>I have yet to read a dogma of a certain religion disparaging other religions or faiths.</p>

<p>The founders may have been Deists or areligious in part (or in whole), but the population was always a Christian majority. Our earliest settlers were Puritans and Pilgrims - two fundamentalist religious sects. We've been through witch trials, two Great Awakenings, and led a worldwide Evangelical revolution.</p>

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Slavery (it is a religious practice, started because of religion)

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<p>Slavery was not based in religion, nor did it start on account of it.</p>

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Even the people dying in Isreal because the Islams and Jews are fighting over that one land (always forget the name). Where the Islamic "floating rock" and the Jew's church is near the same area and people are dying everyday because of it.

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You sound criminally misinformed. "The Islams"? They're Muslims. "Islami" would make the tiniest bit of sense, at least in American parlance, but even then. And "that one land"? Please, please educate yourself before writing in this manner. The "floating rock" is the Dome of the Rock. Jews do not worship in churches and the issue is hardly that of there being a "church" near the mosque, it's of said temple having been destroyed and the mosque's existence preventing its reconstruction.</p>

<p>^^Yeah, I know. Yet the Founding Fathers believed in the Enlightment by Locke? I think they would have been in the Illuminati, just kidding probably not, but they did believe in science and rational thinking. I think we should at least have one president who does not a dogmatic view and see how (s)he would lead this nation. Have a different perspective in our nation. Although, I doubt that will never happen because the vast majority of Americans would never elect an atheist into office.</p>

<p>But it was practiced by many religions, slavery that is.</p>

<p>Religions don't start conflict, people do
I agree with thrill3rnit3</p>

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Yeah, I know. Yet the Founding Fathers believed in the Enlightment by Locke...but they did believe in science and rational thinking.

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<p>By this, are you implying that religious people do not believe in science and are not capable of rational thinking?</p>

<p>People create religion.</p>

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People create religion.

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<p>The religious person's argument would probably be that they were divinely inspired. Your line of reasoning leads nowhere (although Richard Dawkins will give you a pat on the back for it).</p>