::: Research party :::

[jpsi]

<p>I have a crude idea…</p>

<p>At first, check if it applies to you:</p>

<p>1) Are you sick?
2) Do you have the mucus in nose?
3) Do you have an analogue or digital ohmometer?
4) Do you have an unrecorded CD to spare?</p>

<p>If you answered YES four times, do as following:</p>

<ul>
<li>Blow out your nose.</li>
<li>>></li>
<li>If the mucus is homogenous: take CD, lie it on a good and flat isolator. Put mucus in the center of the CD. Make it in this way, that mucus would cover all the space in the center [in xy and z, do not to allow it to stick out. It must have the same area and volume]</li>
<li>If it is not… Make the second point for both of fractions [Well, I am sorry for it. I really appreciate your input!]</li>
</ul>

<h2>- Now find the diameter of the circle [CD is still on the isolator] and appose electrodes of ohmometer in such a way that both of them would lie on the diameter and touch CD [distance btwn electrodes is max].</h2>

<p>Thank you very much indeed!
It is not a joke. If you have time - try it.</p>

<p>Email adress: <a href=“mailto:jpsi@o2.pl”>jpsi@o2.pl</a>
Email form:
What is your sickness [if known, if you guess, write it]:
What were the resitances:
1 -
2 -
3 -
4 -
5 -
I would be happy to have more</p>

<p>When the resistances were measured:
[Date and hour]
1
2
3
4
5
more…</p>

<p>Type of mucus [fluid, semi fluid, double-fractions, solid]:
Color of mucus: [green, white, yellow. Photo would be fine]:</p>

<p>You can also isolate this mucus and send me a photo from microscope :). Or anything other that would make this problem more clear. Thank you once again!</p>

<p><a href=“mailto:jpsi@o2.pl”>jpsi@o2.pl</a></p>

[LSA]

<p>I don’t think anyone will partake in this “research party”. :)</p>

[pebbles]

<p>Most of us are just pretending we never saw it</p>

[jpsi]

<p>I was reading about “playing hard”. And it was an association.
Research party is something completely different.</p>

<p>Pebbles, why not?</p>

[pebbles]

<p>-POST DELETED B/C OF GETTING SLACK FROM LSA-</p>

[LSA]

<p>I might be able to find an “ohmmeter”, and I definitely have unrecorded CDs (but not to spare), so I guess I don’t qualify.</p>

[jpsi]

<p>Well, actually it should not be a problem… At first, one CD.
But…
You wipe out mucus and it would be ok :). So it would serve as long as you wish…
I said “for spare” because I assumed that many people might not like this CD after getting dirty in mucus…</p>

<p>LSA, pebbles, and everyone. It would take you 15 minutes to take 5 measures, and about 5-10 to describe data and send email. It has something in common with “research party” - contrary to what I have said earlier - many people would use small amount of time and the output would be something useful.</p>

<p>I searched through the internet a bit, and there is not so many documents concerning measuring resistance of mucus… But why not? It can have some correlation with pathogens that infected your body.</p>

<p>It would be nice to have a possibility to check in 20 seconds, whether it is flu or SARS, and there might be something… Since it would not take anyone too much time, I posted it here. Is not it better to use an idea if it can have positive impact on world instead of letting it go? </p>

<p>I do not know if this hipothesis has any substantiation. That’s why I am checking it…
I guessed that people applying to MIT would be the most eager ones to help me…
[Read through prospectus of MIT “We are…”] :/</p>

[LSA]

<p>Yes… but what pebbles and I are trying to say is that we are not sick. So, unfortunately, we don’t qualify. :(</p>

[jpsi]

<p>I could not see what pebbles was saying… I was orieented for ostracism beacuse of the stupid subject [nasal mucus…]. BUt all in all it is better to check resistance of nasal mucus if you do not have possibility to do anything more useful than do nothing :). And I do not have enough space in short term memory for another biology book… So research party…</p>

<p>LSA, Pebbles - do you mind to contract something? [ ]</p>

[vecter]

<p>lol what’s the point of this</p>

[LSA]

<p>There isn’t. :)</p>

<p>And no, I don’t want to contract any virus or sickness. I like feeling well.</p>

[pebbles]

<p>No thank you I’m quite alright :)</p>

[gospurs50]

<p>ive actually always wanted to know the resistance of mucus, but i seem to not be sick or have any blank CDs or have an ohmmeter so darn. plus how would we even know what type of sickness we actually have haha. anyways this would be a seriously flawed experiment because the mucus is coming from different sources. MIT applicants arent eager to partake in flawed experiments. we would need one person to get sick multiple times and test his mucus each time. I would rather not volunteer. </p>

<p>just kidding this seems fun but im not sick.</p>

[jpsi]

<p>It would not be flawed. You are not biology/pre-med major, are you? ;)</p>

<p>The point of this is seeking for possibility of checking sickness in a cheap and fast way. The CD is because the distance and volume must be the same, otherwise it would be flawed. </p>

<p>The mucus must be from the other source, because we would be applying it for “other sources”. Checking if the mucus from other specimens differs would be a control, however, with a big group taking part in this experiment, there would be probably some ‘classes’ or ranges - species variability can be seen then.
However, not that people who would be measuring won’t have their mucus resistance measured earlier. Hence, the experiment is exact simulation of real situation and cannot be flawed. </p>

<p>I have enogh not-sick people here, but I needed to send it further to reach more sick ones… If you have someone, send them email or something… If I have enough data, I would sign their names in paper ;).</p>

[jpsi]

<p>Also the protocol is harder for not-sick people… I would like rather to have a big group with different ilnesses.</p>

[gospurs50]

<p>so is it kind of like each person measures their resistance when not sick (each person probably has a diff one) and then meausure it again when sick and observe the diff in resistance? so basically if your resistance is x ohms greater or less than your normal resistance you are sick with a certain disease, etc. kinda fitting them into ranges because it varies a little between dif. people? well im no pre-med but it makes sense…haha ;)</p>

[gospurs50]

<p>haha and no about the only biology all i have is 9th grade pre-ap bio back when i didnt care about or pay attention to school. so its fair to say i dunno what im talking about</p>

[jpsi]

<p>gospurs50 - It is almost about it. As I said, it is crude idea.</p>

<p>But well. It is bad. I have noticed, that it needs one modification. I do not know how could I omit it earlier. Maybe because I am that tired.</p>

<p>When the concentration of bacteria is greater, resistance is lower, so we can have small amount of bacteria producing large amount of ions and contrary.</p>

<p>To obey this problem, we should find out amount of immunoglobins, or knew how many bacteria there were. It is not better than anything other technique then, since it needs additional modifications. Of course it might work, since we can know that at this stage of the sickness one should have X ohms for SARS, and Y ohms for a cold, but it is less accurate [different immune systems of people, unknown stage etc]. Practically chemical/PCR analysis would be better. And that’s why I had not find it on internet.</p>

<p>That’s a pity :(. We still have no possibility of cheap and fast diagnosing. This resistance gives us some information, but there are additional variables. I need to think a bit about all the variables and then preclude it. Maybe it is cheaper and easier to make PCR, but there MUST be some faster way. Post if you have any ideas :).</p>

<p>It is getting more interesting ;).</p>

[jpsi]

<p>It might be even more funny if you start to think when I came up to this idea… heh</p>

[gospurs50]

<p>yeah it seems kinda fishy with tons of lurking variables to screw up the data. haha i dont even know what immunoglobins are…i shoulda paid some attention to biology freshman year. BTW i dont even think those were covered. maybe they were, who knows. haha i need a crash course on bio.</p>