RIP Robin Williams

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<p>I heard that also. </p>

<p>Listening to an expert in suicide today , he believes because of the circumstances of his death that it was an impulsive, unplanned death. Just a bad moment.</p>

<p>Still very sad. Amazing body of work, just amazing. </p>

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<p>Wow, Nrdsb4. That’s a lot of people. A physician mentioned one element of best practices cardiac rehab is monitoring people for depression. I just didn’t realize it was that widespread or scientifically-proven yet. </p>

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<p>People with chronic lung disease often have clinical depression as well, plus as heart disease. Depression probably accompanies many chronic conditions and diagnoses.</p>

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<p>FYI - His surgery was in 2009. He was remarried in 2011, was reportedly near bankruptcy in 2013, and his new TV series had been panned and canceled followed by a return to rehab a month ago. There was a lot going on. </p>

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<p>Rarely is suicide an impulsive act. Dr. Tom Joiner, a well known and respected expert in the field, wrote an excellent book, and explained it somewhat here in this NPR interview: <a href=“Deconstructing 'Myths About Suicide' : NPR”>Deconstructing 'Myths About Suicide' : NPR;

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<p>And yes, Nrdsb4- post cardiac depression is, unfortunately, common <a href=“American Heart Association | To be a relentless force for a world of longer, healthier lives”>American Heart Association | To be a relentless force for a world of longer, healthier lives;

<p><a href=“http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heart_vascular_institute/clinical_services/centers_excellence/womens_cardiovascular_health_center/patient_information/health_topics/depression_heart_disease.html”>http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heart_vascular_institute/clinical_services/centers_excellence/womens_cardiovascular_health_center/patient_information/health_topics/depression_heart_disease.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>And RIP Lauren (Betty) Bacall</p>

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<p>We will have to let the experts disagree. The gentleman on CNN today was a psychiatrist (Columbia U) who specialized in suicide. Those were his thoughts.</p>

<p><a href=“http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1408/12/cnr.05.html”>http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1408/12/cnr.05.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>His statement is near the bottom of the transcript. Dr. Mann.</p>

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<p>When I look in a mirror, I expect to see somebody in his 30’s. I just dropped my daughter off where I saw Robin Williams. When I saw Robin Williams, I expected to see somebody in his 40’s. I was surprised by how old he looked. I wondered what Robin would be like as an older entertainer. He performed with such energy so I wondered…</p>

<p>Now we will never know.</p>

<p>He was a local boy. He was a star. He was our generation and we arent supposed to be dying off for another 20 years. It is disturbing that he was in such pain. </p>

<p>I was always a big fan of Robin Williams. I am glad we have his body of work.</p>

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<p>Nrdsb4,</p>

<p>I listened to Robin’s Oscar speech. After the clip ended there were some other clips to choose from. One is a Johnny Carson show with Robin already on it and Jonathan Winters marching onstage in a Union Army uniform. Winters was hilarious and Johnny tossed in harmless words like medication and prozac for laughs. Now we are learning about some of the truth behind those words. .</p>

<p>It’s sad that all three of them are gone. I want to rent “Moscow On The Hudson” since I hardly remember it, and Robin aptly played a foreign musician who wanted to defect. </p>

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<p>I don’t read this as saying it was impulsive or unplanned. Sounds like from the news reports that he first made a superficial cut with a knife and perhaps planned to cut his wrists, but may have found that untenable for whatever reason, and looked for another means. He was in another bedroom, apart from his wife, who I believe had already gone to bed. The act may not have been completely thought through, and we don’t know if he had consumed anything that night (was he still clean and sober?) that could have affected his thinking and /or judgement. This physician called it “probably relatively spontaneous”, which, IMO, isnt IMO the same as impulsive or unplanned.</p>

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<p><a href=“In Robin Williams' Tiburon neighborhood, grief and fond memories”>http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/In-Robin-Williams-Tiburon-neighborhood-grief-5682529.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“https://hollywoodlife.com/2014/08/12/robin-williams-suicide-wife-house-susan-schneider/”>https://hollywoodlife.com/2014/08/12/robin-williams-suicide-wife-house-susan-schneider/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>His wife went to bed at 10:30 and then woke up in the morning believing he was still asleep in the other room and proceeded to go shopping. No-one saw him for about 14 hours when he was found by his personal assistant. </p>

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<p>The ABC news special tonight said he had cuts on both his wrists.</p>

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<p>Picked up my daughter from a gym. She was carrying flowers in memory of Robin Williams. All the participants were…</p>

<p>The local park and rec has great programs including basketball for disabled people. Robin and his wife volunteered their time and played basketball with some of these people including my daughter. </p>

<p>What happened is sad…</p>

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<p>He was apparently such a part of the SF community. So sad…</p>

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<p><a href=“define spontaneous - Google Search”>define spontaneous - Google Search;

<p>Definition of Spontaneous :occurring as a result of sudden impulse, without premeditation.</p>

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<p>Dstark - the one article speaking of his wife not wanting to ever go back in that home again is so sad. Whether she keeps the house or eventually sells it, I hope she doesn’t make any permanent decisions that she might later regret. But for now, I’m sure it’s very, very painful.</p>

<p>Regarding Robin and his wife sleeping in separate rooms - many people with bipolar illness go through periods where they have irregular sleep patterns due to insomnia; it would not surprise me that Robing and his wife might occasionally (or more often than not) have separate sleeping areas for nights when his insomnia might disturb her sleep. It doesn’t necessarily mean they were fighting or anything. </p>

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<p>Teriwtt , I agree with your post. </p>

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<p>Just recalling some of the tidbits I’ve heard from countless mourners in the last 24 hours. One person described the following situation to illustrate depression: If you had $20M and found out you’d just lost it all, you wouldn’t care; alternately, if you all of a sudden found out you’d inherited $20M from some rich uncle you never knew you had, you wouldn’t care, either. </p>