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<p>Totally. I would be just as inflamed if this incident had nothing to do with homosexuality. Neither more inflamed nor less inflamed.</p>
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<p>Unless you have prophetic powers and can answer your own question, the question is irrelevant. The issue is, the sensitivities and right of privacy of one person were held in no regard and considered publishable and possibly even marketable by one or two other students. So basically, he was “human traffic” for them. Disgusting. Not cute, not a prank, not amusing, not “just being a college student.” (Not falsely quoting you, just responding to what I often hear about invasions of privacy – via all kinds of electronics, perpetrated on all kinds of sensitivities.) Adolescents have killed themselves over being “published” regarding a crush on a heterosexual person of interest, with no activity videographed: In fact sometimes photoshop images are created to imply activity that never occurred.</p>
<p>^^ I agree. It’s the hateful, cruel invasion of privacy that is so awful. They aren’t murderers, but they are cruel and base, and serious penalties are in order. (I’ve assumed, RVM, that Molly Wei was more than just a bystander. She has been charged and is out on bail so I’m assuming there’s a basis…but I don’t know.) They set out to shame Tyler C, and shamed themselves, nearly irreparably. (But I wonder why they don’t try to repair it-- an apology would be at least a beginning. What can their families be thinking?)</p>
<p>Please don’t think i have any sympathy for those who videotaped this student,it is/was appaling no matter who they taped…That said, this would not be as “newsworthy” or nationally known if it didn’t involve a gay student who committed suicide…If it was simply a matter of videotaping an intimate encounter,it wouldn’t be known outside of NJ</p>
<p>So many lives destroyed from one terrible act.</p>
<p>I thought that Molly Wei was complicit in that she let the roommate use her computer to access the images that his computer in the bedroom was capturing.</p>
<p>Agree with MP that people really need to stop and think before invading people’s privacy!</p>
<p>But did she know what he was doing with her computer? I’m just playing devil’s advocate here - I am wondering if it is possible that he simply approached her - said he was sexiled - and asked if he could hang out in her room and use her computer. She might have been studying and not paying much attention to what he was doing. I have yet to hear a thorough explanation of her role and I just wonder if she really has any culpability.</p>
<p>This reminds me somewhat of the other big college story this week - the Georgetown student who was manufacturing hallucinogenic drugs in his dorm rrom. At first, the roommate was arrested as well. But within a few days, he was released and is not being charged. He had to have known what was going on - all the chemicals and equipment/supplies in the room - but since he was not actually doing anything - he is not being charged and has been allowed to return to Georgetown, as far as I know.</p>
<p>I would like to give Molly Wei at least some benefit of doubt for the moment - at least until I hear a news story that gives me different info. For all we know - she is really an innocent bystander - who just had the bad luck that it was her room he came to.</p>
<p>From a New Jersey on-line newspaper:</p>
<p>"Ravi, along with high school friend and Rutgers dorm mate, Molly Wei, have been charged with invasion of privacy after allegedly secretly streaming live, through Ravis laptop, an encounter between his roommate, Tyler Clementi, and another man.</p>
<p>It is what happened later, however, that has wreaked havoc on the lives of Ravi and Wei. About 48 hours after the two teens watched the first liason on a computer in Weis dorm room, Ravi invited his Twitter followers to view his roommate in a second encounter he believed would occur that evening."</p>
<p>Ok - this is kind of what I was looking for - apparently Ravi and Wei were hs friends - so it wasn’t so random that he went to her room - and according to this - they both watched the first taping. So, maybe she is more involved that I thought.</p>
<p>^ That was my understanding.</p>
<p>Have any of us imagined what it would be like to be Ravi or Wei’s parents? </p>
<p>Obviously, that would be a very difficult situation. But we would have to give our children some advice about what to do with their lives while waiting for their cases to come to court. Withdrawing from Rutgers seems like an obvious choice, but what next? </p>
<p>I don’t have an answer. I’m just posing the question to see if any of the really smart people here have any ideas.</p>
<p>If this was my kid there would be no college for a very long time. I would make my kid get a job and do some serious community service. Of course, being over 18 does pose a problem as they are legally adults but if they wanted a roof over their head it would be my way or the highway.</p>
<p>I certainly have. I’m extremely sorry for them. Most kids don’t suffer such horrendous unintended consequences for their dumb 18-yr-old behavior. (By which I mean causing or directly contributing to the death of another person.) Not to mention widely-publicized consequences. </p>
<p>On the other hand, their kids are still alive.</p>
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<p>I’m sure that this withdrawal is a negotiated deal.</p>
<p>I expect you’re right, ellemenope. If it were my kid…counseling, family therapy… I’d search my own soul to figure out how I had allowed the child to reach the point where he/she could even consider doing something like this. And my kid would be making a public apology, and facing the victim’s family.</p>
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<p>What about the old taunt:</p>
<p>X and Y, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G, first comes love, then comes…</p>
<p>Suicide?</p>
<p>I wish all students who do horrible things, bullying, assaults, etc. could be kicked out of school at all levels, but it’s not that easy. In CT, this happened this year, a girl assaulted after drinking and photos sent on phones to many people. Then she had to start school with one of them in her class. This happened in a nice upperclass town that has been getting a lot of bad news lately.
[Madison</a> rape case shocker- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut](<a href=“http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/02/28/news/shoreline/a1madison.txt]Madison”>http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/02/28/news/shoreline/a1madison.txt)
[EDITORIAL:</a> Madison girl?s ordeal continues- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut](<a href=“http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/10/14/opinion/doc4cb636a9a0887392498660.txt]EDITORIAL:”>http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/10/14/opinion/doc4cb636a9a0887392498660.txt)</p>
<p>I also wish they had been expelled. </p>
<p>After the whole Duke fiasco, I am sure most schools have learned to not come to judgement too quickly. So Rutgers administrators are stuck. Choices:1. Let them stay and wait for all the facts and then act. 2. Expel them now and possibly be sued later.3. Suggest they withdraw.</p>
<p>I think having them withdraw was probably smart for the school. They don’t have to worry about the students safety on campus and the negative Rutgers publicity stops immediately. Done and over.</p>
<p>Agree- letting them withdraw lets Rutgers not have to deal with these kids anymore. Close the door. Diplomatic way of telling them to get lost and never come back, with out fear of retribution. I do think they should face charges from Clementes family. They do need to own responsibility for and face the consequences of what they did.</p>
<p>Early on, there was a suggestion that they change their names. As far as I know, one has to go to court to have a name legally changed. I wonder if a court would deny permission to do so in this case, given the circumstances.</p>
<p>As for where they could continue their schooling, remember the case of the Harvard girl, Blair Hornstine, who had her admission rescinded? I believe she ended up in university in England, where her name wasn’t a household word.</p>