<p>pacheight has stated before that one of his daughters is an actor who has entertained millions, and who has been going before casting directors since she was 8, if not younger. </p>
<p>As for college counseling advice, pacheight encourages students to pursue their dreams, even when pursuing those dreams is going to cause the student to incur $80k or more in debt. Not even counting what they’re going to need to pay for mustard.</p>
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Same thing in Virginia- son applied ED in 2005 to UVa=best
fit for him socially and financially. He thought of applying to other places just to see if he got in (and I’m sure for the bragging rights if he did).
Many Virginia kids are
happy to go to UVa, William and Mary or Virginia Tech .Pacheight,if your daughter is in swimming, that seems to be a much more balanced sport between opportunities for both men and women. Hope she’s happy where she is. Apologies in advance if I am wrong about the swimming. Only bringing up athletics again because you have continued to do so. I just took a look at swimming and
if I’m looking at it correctly, there are many more opportunities for women but definitely not as lopsided as a sport like volleyball.</p>
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<p>Oh gosh, don’t worry about that. As pacheight has casually mentioned several times, he/she lives in a house worth $1.7M. If $80K is a problem for a student, then they must be “rural” and are therefore non-entities anyway.</p>
<p>sevmom - I imagine TX and VA re in the same situation. </p>
<p>For my son, he had no interest in staying in TX (it isn’t home), and got into lots of top Engr schools, but chose Penn State and is very, very happy there (other than freezing his tail off!). The honors college is working for him, and being part of the Blue Band (and the various pep bands) has made his transition much easier. </p>
<p>I would imagine kids in NC are the same way. If you can get into UNC with no problems (or NCSU for the engr/sci fields) - then that’s a no-brainer.</p>
<p>For me, you couldn’t PAY me to send my kids to HYPSM. I’ve gone to school with the “elites” of New Orleans society, and my kids have gone to school with the “elites” of wealthy expats/wealthy nationals in foreign countries. Sorry - none of us have any interest in repeating those experiences.</p>
<p>sooz, i meant love of people, people you know. wouldn’t that be an interesting way to place kids in college, of course there are few ways to do this currently.</p>
<p>i wasn’t betting, sorry you took it that way</p>
<p>My school made the list. :)</p>
<p>Some interesting statistics extrapolated from the list:</p>
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[<em>]5 of the top 10 schools are located in New York City
[</em>]8 of the top 10 schools are located in either New York or Massachusetts
[<em>]10 of the top 10 schools are located in either New York, Massachusetts, or New Hampshire
[</em>]14 of the top 20 schools are located in either New York or Massachusetts
[<em>]18 of the top 20 schools are located in the Northeast
[</em>]20 of the top 20 schools are located in either New York, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, California, Connecticut, or New Jersey[/ul]</p>
<p>Moderator Note, added 2 hours later: the following gray box comes from post #643 as posted by Grcxx3
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<p>I’m so sorry that neither you nor your kids had the good fortune to rub elbows with people with pacheight. Apparently not everyone in that echelon has the same kind of personal charm that he/she has.</p>
<p>lasma you’re back:)</p>
<p>if you drive west for one hour you’ll find tens of thousand of homes at 1.7 million or higher. we’re in calfornia, it’s not that big of a deal. and yes I believe the right college is very important and worth 80k if need be…80k over a lifetime is not that big of a deal. I bet everyone on this board spent 80 over the last 12 months and has been doing so for years.</p>
<p>Lasma please, take a drive, you’re sounding very rural:)</p>
<p>Grccx, I’m from Pennsylvania originally and think Penn State’s a great school(almost went there myself years ago)We took our younger son to a volleyball camp there in 2008 and we really enjoyed our visit. Younger son is in engineering at Virginia Tech. Loves the big time sports atmosphere. That’s great that your son is in the band at Penn State. Sounds like a fun time!</p>
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<p>LOL! Yup - we’ve definitely missed out!!! I could name some pretty impressive names (both in NO and overseas), but as anyone with any amount of cosmopolitan culture knows…that just isn’t done! ;)</p>
<p>Note: I am not putting down everyone with money, connections, prestige or whatever. But as most people understand…there are those who “have” it and those who “flaunt” it. It’s the ones how “flaunt” it that usually put a bad name on the rest.</p>
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<p>We have a live-in housekeeper and my kids went to public hs. Now what? Lol</p>
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<p>Actually, my younger D didn’t choose her school due to love of people she knew but on the other hand, she knew many at NYU/Tisch before she arrived. She had spent many summers at a theater camp where many of her pals went onto schools like NYU/Tisch and so she had a lot of friends there already.</p>
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<p>pacheight, can you clarify to whom you are responding and which post? It is unclear. Thank you.</p>
<p>Also, pacheight, can you explain your reference to choosing a college where your D loved the people as her reason to attend, and you talk about turning down Ivies, etc. and stated that your D doesn’t attend an Ivy. However, elsewhere on CC, you posted that you are sending both your children to top 10 private universities. So, even if your D doesn’t attend an Ivy, she still attends an elite college, abeit where she loves the people :D</p>
<p>Pacheight is this really what you think of theater? As you advised a student:
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<p>Maybe for a soap opera actor, or to do commercials. Or to appear before “millions” which I guess means on TV. You cannot conceive from your 1.7 million neighborhood vantage point why some students might choose the life of a working actor in which the craft, the artistry rules. You belittle Soozie for helping students who want to find their way into theater as their major, for whom the outcomes could be manifold: theater production, acting, or law school later if they should prefer. And you are also busy advising students on CC with theatrical ambitions to skip college, and instead come audition right out of h.s. in NYC or LA. Who’s the dangerous one? </p>
<p>Do you know what happens to the thousands of hopefuls who come to those cities every year from highschools, with no other credential than their shiny teeth and bodies? Not pretty if they DON’T make it. At least those who have a college degree, should they strike out in those cities, can redirect to have a different life and make a different living in case they lack the talent, fortitude, contacts, networking ability and luck that it takes to make it in those cities. </p>
<p>You and your neighbors have some things going, and you know whom you know. Just understand that other students are managing to carve out lives in the creative/performing arts through genuine commitment. They network. They get paid, too. Heck, my son even pays taxes!</p>
<p>I hope you will take stock of your basis of advising vulnerable students. You kinda scare me and I hope students take a measure of you before listening to your advice, at least regarding majors in theater/drama where for some reason you like to opine.</p>
<p>p3t, what you wrote in post 656, I could have written myself, but not as well as you. I feel EXACTLY the same. I refrained from posting on the Theater Majors forum when these posts went up by pacheight advising students to go straight to NYC or LA out of HS and learn acting on the job. Same with the posts about it being a business, not an art.</p>
<p>My kid’s passion is the art of acting, singing, composing/writing. Luckily she is finding work in her field to support herself, but pay or no pay, she will always work in performing arts. Not every single thing she does is for pay, though obviously lots is for pay as she supports herself in the field. But every endeavor is NOT about the paycheck at all. </p>
<p>I also agree that those who seek a theater major, will have that degree that can serve them well in the future even outside the arts. </p>
<p>I would say that every single job and endeavor my kid has had since graduating, has had a direct connection in some way to her having attended her college, and would not have happened otherwise.</p>
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<p>The list? What list?</p>
<p>Oh I get it … this an attempt to bring the discussion back to its start. With all the drama, it was easy to forget what this thread is all about. And is the conclusion that there is a Left Coast, a Right Coast, and nothing in between? What a gem of a list! :)</p>
<p>Xiggi…LOL :D</p>
<p>But…</p>
<p>If you want a recap…</p>
<p>Forbes top 20 prep schools, mustard, vacuums, theater majors, independent college counselors, meth, definition of rural, Intel, elite public high schools, Ivy athletes, acting as a business, elitist attitudes…did I leave anything out? :)</p>
<p>this, isn’t from me. don’t know where lasma found it, but it’s not from me</p>
<p>lasma posted it a few up and said I posted it. so what’s that make lasma?</p>
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I’ve gone to school with the “elites” of New Orleans society, and my kids have gone to school with the “elites” of wealthy expats/wealthy nationals in foreign countries. Sorry - none of us have any interest in repeating those experiences.</p>
<p>I’m so sorry that neither you nor your kids had the good fortune to rub elbows with people with pacheight. Apparently not everyone in that echelon has the same kind of personal charm that he/she has.</p>
<p>Pacheight wrote:
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<p>Lasma quoted it, but didn’t say who originally posted it. It wasn’t Pacheight. </p>
<p>So I am taking the liberty to name the author of that quotation, immediately above it, in LasMa’s post #647.</p>
<p>That should put an end to this misunderstanding.</p>