Maybe cars should have them, too, to protect them from the deer.
While you guys debate gun control, here’s a reminder of the beliefs of the perps:
Video from the NYT:
Farkhunda Malikzada, a 27-year-old Muslim woman falsely accused of burning a Quran, was killed by a mob in central Kabul as hundreds watched and filmed. This video contains scenes of graphic violence.
I wish all the stories about that poor woman didn’t have to emphasize that she was falsely accused of burning a Koran. So what if she had? Then she would deserve to be killed by a mob? It’s a little like the people here in the West who were saying things like “well, the people at Charlie Hebdo didn’t deserve to be murdered, but after all, they insulted the Prophet.”
In all seriousness, however evil and so on the perpetrators of the San Bernardino massacre may have been, an attempt at (further) guilt by association is really uncalled for here.
Both murderous episodes were committed in the name of “the religion of peace”
If 10 people go out tomorrow and commit acts of violence in the name of your religion, should the world condemn your religion? Or should it condemn the acts of violence?
Maybe my memory is bad, but when Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland were murdering and maiming each other and others who happened to be in the way of a bomb, I just don’t remember people blaming Christianity.
@hayden Good point. Also, nobody went around saying nasty things about Irish Americans during those years, either. Several people in my family have very obviously Irish names, but nobody viewed those people with fear or disapproval. And I never felt the need to conceal my Irish heritage.
What do you think would have been the result if the Irish had brought their murdering and maiming to this country, and sought to indoctrinate young people here to join their cause, and did things like fly planes into skyscrappers and shooting up a bunch of innocent people enjoying a workplace party?
Maybe my memory is bad but I do not remember Irish Catholics or Protestants calling for Jihad against Americans, trying to blow American planes and buildings and shooting random American citizen in the name of God.
It’s not always about us, or is it? Substitute us for the English and Scots, who had bombings in their country by the Irish.
Interesting proposal: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/georgia-gun-bill-divorce_567aeab5e4b06fa6887fb6e0
Of course it’s about us, Hunt. Aren’t we the ones being scolded for our behavior?
I can see the rationale for this. I’ve known people who were going through divorces, and they’re under huge stress. They don’t function as well as they usually do. It would not be a good time to become a first-time gun owner.
@Hayden wrote:
The IRA were fighting over land in Northern Ireland. They only crapped in their own nest and didn’t export their dispute. If you stayed out of Northern Ireland/UK, then it wasn’t your problem.
The Islamisists, in contrast, aren’t fighting over resources. They simply want us enslaved or dead.
Then allow me to present a small refresher. http://www.google.com/url?q=http://aattp.org/here-are-8-christian-terrorist-organizations-that-equal-isis/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjtpdv8uPzJAhVCDg8KHdZ-AMYQFggWMAE&sig2=li7RkbUXluhc0imG9SgTxg&usg=AFQjCNG1-VJsvk4qBQ_U_judDCDsVtvlCQ and http://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjtpdv8uPzJAhVCDg8KHdZ-AMYQFggTMAA&sig2=HlpkgKctFAcKuRpNqyNeTg&usg=AFQjCNHJ3zXkf_rT-f2oGZPQAVC6ims3OQ
And yet you’ll never hear me demonize Christianity and mockingly call it “a religion of love.” Now I’ll sit and wait while posters ask me “So you condone Islamist terrorists?” Farook went against his religion when he did what he did. Believe me if you want to, or stay morbidly scared of people ** who want to kill you in anyway possible ** because it’s the absolute first time someone threatens America.
I’m not understanding your point, GMT. The IRA certainly wasn’t claiming London, but they nevertheless committed terrorism in London.
More generally, are you saying that we are allowed to condemn all Muslims because an itsy-bitsy minority of Muslims commit terrorism here in the name of their religion, but we aren’t allowed to condemn Christians because no Christians commit terrorism in the name of their religion here? Sorry, three dead in Colorado refute that argument.
“If you stayed out of Northern Ireland/UK, then it wasn’t your problem.”
The IRA murdered British soldiers outside of UK. For instance I remember two British soldiers on leave who were killed by the IRA while waiting for a ferry in Ostende, Belgium in the late 80s.
“What do you think would have been the result if the Irish had brought their murdering and maiming to this country, and sought to indoctrinate young people here to join their cause, and did things like fly planes into skyscrappers and shooting up a bunch of innocent people enjoying a workplace party?”
You know, I don’t understand it. It’s like people don’t understand that it’s a matter of scale. It seems like some of mental illness, really, to not acknowledge the truth. Minimizing the murderous destruction against so many people, comparing it to much smaller incidents that have happened, is just disturbed. It comes across as defending Islamic terrorism as no big deal, and no threat. Ignoring the massive upheaval and violence in other countries, as if it doesn’t affect us, is just plain strange. Millions of refugees flooding into Europe, men, women and children brutally killed, ah, no big deal. If it’s not happening right here, it doesn’t affect us, it’s like it’s not really happening.
Why would anyone defend this, minimize it, and try to compare it to much smaller, contained incidents? I do not understand.
“More generally, are you saying that we are allowed to condemn all Muslims because an itsy-bitsy minority of Muslims commit terrorism here in the name of their religion, but we aren’t allowed to condemn Christians because no Christians commit terrorism in the name of their religion here? Sorry, three dead in Colorado refute that argument”
What is this silliness? Where has GMT said people should condemn all Muslims? Where has she said we aren’t allowed to condemn Christians who have committed violence?
Why argue so dishonestly? What is the purpose in that?