Scattergram from a Northern California Catholic school

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<p>Grades and SAT scores are not always the most important factors. Check out Yale, Stanford, Carleton, and Brown for example.</p>

<p>Most schools are easy to get into. </p>

<p><a href=“http://tcci.naviance.com/fc/colleges/scattergram_list.php[/url]”>http://tcci.naviance.com/fc/colleges/scattergram_list.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Access Denied. How can we get a look at the scattergram? (And which Northern California Catholic school is this for?)</p>

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<p><a href=“https://tcci.naviance.com/fc/signin.php?hsid=marincatholic[/url]”>https://tcci.naviance.com/fc/signin.php?hsid=marincatholic&lt;/a&gt;
Password is mccollegeinfo. Type it in where it says Guest Entrance.
Then click on scattergrams which is on the left hand side of the page.</p>

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<p>…except that we do not know what hooks, if any, the accepted students had. Judging from the number of high-stat rejections, I would not call these “easy to get into.” (That’s just my take on it.)</p>

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<p>Dstark, very nice information! </p>

<p>It took me a while to understand that the scattergrams represent MULTI YEARS acceptances. For instance the scattergram for Pomona shows acceptances that are well outside the regular norms. I was wondering how that could be possible for a single year, until I clicked on the general table to the Pomona listing. </p>

<p>Class Apply Admit Enroll
2005 2 0 0
2004 3 0 0
2003 2 2 0
2002 1 1 0
2001 2 2 0 </p>

<p>Same thing for CMC
Class Apply Admit Enroll
2005 3 0 0
2004 5 1 0
2003 2 0 0
2001 2 2 1 </p>

<p>Amherst
Class Apply Admit Enroll
2005 2 0 0
2001 2 2 0 </p>

<p>FWIW, despite being a based on a very small sample, one could see that admissions offices may develop a “school” memory. Pomona accepted 5 students in 2001-2003, but saw them turn down the invitation. In the following years, Pomona did not accept any.</p>

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<p>DS, where you sarcastic about some schools being easy and named Brown in the prior sentence. </p>

<p>Class Apply Admit Enroll
2005 3 1 1
2004 5 0 0
2003 3 0 0
2002 1 1 1</p>

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<p>Xiggi, most schools are easy to get into. I never said Carleton, Yale, Stanford, and Brown were easy to get into. They are not. Take away 40 schools and it becomes much easier for students to go where they want. I’m shocked at schools like Arizona, Colorado, Boston Uiversity, and a few of the lacs. I just figured the acceptances to Pomona were a mistake and they meant Cal Poly Pomona. I still do after another look.</p>

<p>When am I going to get the sport stats? They are more important. :)</p>

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<p>I agree that CAN’T mean Pomona.</p>

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<p>“When am I going to get the sport stats? They are more important.”</p>

<p>I deliver more slowly when I’m on the road. :slight_smile: I’m waiting for replies to emails.</p>

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<p>OK Thanks.</p>

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<p>Dstark, Thank you so much for this. Very helpful, especially as my daughter attends a Catholic High School with very similar stats as Marin Catholic. It was a relief to have some hard data from a similar school about her chances at some of the schools she’s considering. THANK YOU.</p>

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<p>Carolyn, I’m glad it can help.</p>

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<p>dstark (and everybody else, look at Princeton’s SAT graph. What a mess. How could anybody make a realistic prediction of Princeton admission chances.</p>

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<p>MC has some great athletes. Check out UCLA.</p>

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<p>Curmudgeon, check out this thread.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=1177580#post1177580[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=1177580#post1177580&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>You can’t. That’s why it’s often termed a lottery.</p>

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<p>S’s northern California Catholic school also uses scattergrams. I have never felt comfortable sharing the information, though, because I remember reading that the information was for the specific use of students and parents, and was not for public dissemination.</p>

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<p>This is from my daughter’s high school, also in Northern California</p>

<p><a href=“pres-net.com”>http://www.pres-net.com/college_info/acceptances.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>coureur, at least with the lottery we can take comfort in the fact that it is (hopefully) truly random. Those Princeton results don’t suggest randomness , at least not to me. They suggest what we all know about the process-it’s truly odd.</p>

<p>I spoke today with a friend whose daughter was rejected by the 3 Ivy schools she applied to but was accepted by several other top 25 schools. 1550, sal from a large suburban school, varsity athlete, AP Scholar with distinction (seven 5’s), very cool kid. </p>

<p>Her top school (doesn’t matter , pick a culprit of your choosing) rejected her ED while the child ranked @ 15th in the same class with scores 100 points less was accepted RD. The only explanation he had was that the schools were looking for that undefinably unique something . In the accepted student’s case that something was their truly precocious political activism. It obviously struck a chord with someone. </p>

<p>His advice? Stress your uniqueness. Gear your entire application process to show that uniqueness. He gave me a few specific suggestions for my daughter to consider, all concentrating on parts of her existence that wouldn’t necessarily leap to mind without knowing what these adcoms are seeking. Pity the poor applicant that concentrates their app only on their achievements in class, standardized testing, and their non-recruitable but significant efforts in sports. All work and nothing goofy (weird-unique) makes Jack a dull boy, and throws him on the reject pile.</p>

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<p>Yep. The “one-trick pony” application seems risky at first. But, when you really think about it, what have you got to lose? What’s the worst that can happen? You get rejected, which is exactly what’s going to happen if you give 'em the standard laundry-list app.</p>