What do you mean “same category”? SUNY is the state university system, so it’s more comparable to the University of California system than to Cal State University.
So the problem with all these gap years is that carefully crafted class that was admitted falls apart. The oboe player who was needed for the orchestra, the quarterback for the team, etc. How do you admit the following year-do you go ahead and admit another quarterback who wants playing time, or hope the old one returns, out of shape? Those taking gap years are likely to be substantially wealthier than the average class member, so succeeding classes will skew richer.
More than you think. California community colleges have had a lot of online classes for a long time. Students choose them. A CSU student with a job might be glad not to have to go to campus for a class.
Agreed this is true for the most part. SDSU is getting pretty competitive lately though and a number of savvy students choose to go there for the value. ?.
@katliamom thank you for your answer. Yeah I was wondering what to compare SUNY with? So yeah you have answered my question.
I’m not sure this is exactly right – CSU’s are also a state university system in California. Maybe they are all in the same “Category”, if we are just talking about state universities?
Oh, I think the Cal States are an amazing system and an amazing value. I know many grads, some in my family, who have gone on to very good careers and/or grad schools from CSUs.
My point was that NY doesn’t have an equivalent to a Cal State. It has one system: SUNY. As opposed to two in California and in many other states, (University of California, California State; or University of Colorado and Colorado State etc.)
Oh, gotcha.
Yes, I actually know some Cal State students not too upset over online learning just for that reason. But they’re also not after the more traditional residential college experience, either.
—-I’ve seen a couple of schools mentioned (I can’t remember which ones) that have basically said no covid related gaps/leaves will be approved. This way they should be able to manage attendance like in any other year and not have to deal with loosing $$ or managing an attendance bulge. I think those schools are actually the ones being the most honest. Students may need to take classes online only or hybrid, but the school is doing the best they can do for the future and hopefully the students support the schools for that.—-
Didn’t UCs (or at least UC Berkeley) say NO to gap-year? That’s why UCs are giving hybrid classes for students who may take a full online class option from home due to many Covid-19 related reasons including health, travels and financial, housing difficulties.
That is true about a lot of Cal State students. They’re not after the more traditional residential college experience because they know they can’t afford it.
A lot of states have (or had) two college systems. Usually the state colleges served a particular purpose of a need (teacher’s colleges, historically black colleges, a geographical area of the state). Wisconsin had two systems until 1970ish when it combined the university and state college system. Maryland had two very different systems until it combined the state colleges with the 5 University of Maryland schools.
@momofsenior1 No formal decision until late August? Wow… I get they want time to make the most informed decision, but that’s awfully late for students to be making living arrangements.
@ChemAM since the UCs go back so late in September, I don’t think they’re making much more a short call that other schools. My D’s east coast LAC has only promised an August 1st decision, and she would be flying to school before the end of August.
@milgymfam True, but it also seems like many schools are moving in the direction of moving up their fall semester dates so they can finish classes by Thanksgiving; either way, still not very much time.
The UCs are quarter schools. They have more time.
@twoinanddone like Tennesse state Vs University of Tennessee, Florida state Vs University of Florida. Very interesting. My state only has the University of.
In NC, they have UNC and NC State, but NC State is part of the UNC system and the UNC system is the state’s only four-year college system; all public four-year universities in NC are part of the UNC system.
Berkeley and Merced are on semesters.