SUNY is the New York equivalent of California’s UC system + CSU system + community colleges combined.
The approximate (but not exact) correspondences:
UCs ~= SUNY University Centers (award up to doctoral level degrees; “flagships”)
CSUs ~= SUNY University Colleges (award up to master’s level degrees; regional focus
CSU Maritime Academy ~= SUNY Maritime College
community colleges ~= community colleges
SUNY also has several additional specialized Technology Colleges.
Relatively few colleges are carefully crafting classes in this way beyond recruited athletes and ensuring that popular majors are not overflowing. Granted, it is the highly selective small to medium size luxury class private schools that are more likely to do this, and these are what many on these forums focus on, but they are not representative of all of the colleges in the US.
Of course, even when the college is focused only on ensuring that it has the correct number of students and that popular majors are not overflowing, the uncertainty about gap years or semesters as well as general yield unpredictability this year can cause issues with that.
UCs’ normal policies on gap year deferrals for newly admitted frosh are generally no, but some campuses may allow them.
However, leave of absence for a term or readmission after a longer period of time away from school is significantly more lenient, though policies vary by campus.
Students who want to know if any normal policies in this respect have changed for COVID-19 should check with the specific campus.
Minnesota didn’t straight up say that, but it was sure the vibe I got from the online meetings I attended. They said they were not going to loosen their requirements to be approved for a gap year and there would be nobody allowed to defer just until Spring. They also pointed out that you were not allowed to take any classes at any other school or your gap year contract would be void and you’d have to reapply.
Texas currently has several public university systems:
http://www.collegeforalltexans.com/apps/Institutionsshow.cfm?Type=1&Level=1
Texas A&M
Texas State
Texas Tech
University of Houston
University of North Texas
University of Texas
Plus a few state universities that are not part of any of the above systems.
UNC is starting earlier and ending before Thanksgiving. There will be a dorm set aside for students testing positive, a dorm set aside for those who were exposed, and rooms set up for those students with pre-existing conditions.
Class size will be reduced, dining hall revisions are in the works right now, areas will be marked to allow for social distancing, distance learning if necessary, etc.
I am glad we are done with undergrad…but she’s not done with school and I don’t anticipate a return to normal for awhile.
Not sure where these 2 extra dorms are coming from, but I do know that over the years there was a lot of construction going on.
Numbers are going to be horrible to manage re: yield. I know kids who have essentially double deposited - planning on their first choice, but if that is online, going to School B in a state that has re-opened. They are holding spots at both.
It is going to be rough for the next few years. How do you plan enrollment?
This is very much a work in progress. The Cal States have announced they will not be opening their campuses. A list of other schools have said they are considering the same. I believe even schools that have announced opening will change course if the general flow changes from what appears to be opening things up
Colleges have always sent home students with a total disregard to effects to family. I remember several kids with swine flu asked to go home. Elderly or immunocompromised family members? That was up to the family to address.
Yikes — not good. It’s a violation of the terms of the Common App to double deposit.
@amsunshine also you know what’s going to happen.
They will go to school b then school b will go online at some point and now they went to a school they aren’t thrilled with, with the same result.
The thing that’s interesting is the inconsistency of the schools in a region. Michigan State says their online, Michigan is going hybrid, Wayne State is going online and Oakland University is planning hybrid. These schools are all 45 minutes from each other.
FSU considers establishing its own testing lab on campus for the fall.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tallahassee.com/amp/5221543002
^Schools are making their own decisions without sufficient data or guidance from government. Many decisions seem hurried (perhaps for financial reason?). I suspect none of the schools has worked out the details in their “plans”.
Schools on quarter system have an advantage. They can wait longer for better data. No school on quarter system has indicated it would start its fall term early or finish it early. Some of them (e.g. Stanford) indicated they may delay the start of their fall terms.
MODERATOR’S NOTE: Thanks for staying on topic, everyone. This thread is so helpful.
If students double deposit, schools will raise the amount of deposit next year and beyond. That’s not good for most families.
I agree. Some schools had already raised their deposit amount this year, due to the NACAC rule change that now allows schools to poach students after they commit elsewhere.
Some schools are at $750 deposit now, although many schools will waive the deposit for students with very low EFCs.
This summer should be interesting, and how much movement we see for both frosh and transfers.
@katliamom wrote:
Sometimes having a lot of money makes you more risk averse, not less.
I’m also a little confused by Governor Lamont’s guidelines. He seems to be saying residential colleges (including boarding schools) may open, contingent on a lot of things (including testing kits) being in place by September 1st. Realistically, what school won’t want to take full advantage of that period before making their plans known? Makes an early Fall semester ending by Thanksgiving less and less likely as time goes by.
Harvard and Yale know they aren’t losing many students if they go online. And, they can manage the fallout if they do (gap year requests etc). Oberlin, and schools like them, not so much.
Exactly. The post graduate value of a degree from HYPMS is high enough that people will pay even if the classes are online. These schools will see a small melt, but schools right below aren’t that fortunate. If the experience isn’t there then the school isn’t worth $75k a year.
The same is true for public schools. Why is UofM committed to a hybrid system and MSU isn’t even trying? 50% of UofM’s class is out of state while it’s only 17% at MSU. But that’s only half of the story. UofM charges $10k a year more for OOS tuition compared to MSU. UofM needs that OOS money a lot more than MSU. It’s that simple.
I can’t remember if this has been discussed, but I’m wondering about the safety and logistics surrounding bringing students back to live at non-computer campuses. I know that, for example, Boston College does not have enough housing currently for 4 years and many students are awarded only 3 years of housing. Many freshman are put in forced triples. UMass is also known for over-enrolling housing and forced triples and putting freshman/students in lounges to sleep/live. I know some have mentioned it would be safest to put students in single rooms when they return in the fall, but how can campuses that are “overcrowded” living space wise handle this?