That has to be such a dilemma for schools like Michigan, especially when the games are such a major part of the student experience. My D was so close to choosing Michigan over Rice. But I guess at least at Rice she doesn’t have to worry about overcrowded games. With 4000 undergrads and a stadium that can hold 70,000, space will not be a problem!
Yes, Vermont has a quarantine rule. Currently so does Massachusetts and Maine (though Maine will allow you to get around this with proof of a negative COVID 19 test within 72 hours prior to entry). If these quarantines continue, entry to any Northeast colleges will require serious planning.
Trying to catch up on this thread. Some excellent comments here and I feel that I learned some things. We just paid the very large bill for daughter’s LAC. She will be a freshman. Hope we didnt make a mistake.
Unless the virus is gone by fall, I wouldn’t expect quarantines to disappear. Kids will be pouring into college towns from all over the country. I think they’ll have to test before they leave home, quarantine for 2 weeks after they arrive, then expect “robost” testing (whatever that turns out to be) with additional quarantines and isolation as necessary throughout the semester.
I have a friend who has two in college who both tested positive for the antibodies. Both had super mild symptoms in March. One thought she maybe had strep. The other just had a mild sore throat and never stopped going to classes. I wonder how many of our kids have already been exposed and carry the antibodies. I know my D was ill in February with something.
This appears to be based on the Diamond Princess cohort, where 54% of 76 asymptomatic infected people given CT scans were found to have lung abnormalities.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-3012
Unfortunately, there does not seem to be much research or other attention to these types of after effects.
@CaliJen I think VT had the quarantine rule because so many NY/NJ/CT families have 2nd houses there and brought coronavirus with them when they were trying to escape their hot spots. Once the tri-state area cools off a bit more, I bet you’re going to see the quarantine lifted (if it hasn’t already). VT will really want the revenue from leaf peeping season and ski season, so I think it’s all a question of how bad NY/NJ/CT get in the Fall/Winter.
@shuttlebus When you say they got the Middlebury College info on social media, did it happen to be NESCAC Barstool? They’re saying that info was doctored and is inaccurate. Or was what that kid got an official communication?
If it wasn’t an official communication, it’s probably not accurate, because somebody posted a fake photo on NESCAC Barstool of their plan saying only some students would be allowed to return to rile students up.
@cypresspat responds to my comments about the UCLA football players not trusting that their coaches have their best interests at hear:
Hey, I say that college football players and basketball players are exploited and should be paid. So I’m certain the players are right.
There is a strong reason to believe that the virus already burned through his campus in February. My son was one of many diagnosed by the doctor at the health clinic with a “mysterious” virus after testing negative for flu, strep, and mono. I am hoping he has some immunity now.
@homerdog Im one of the people that says quarantine upon arriving. I think that in especially rural areas. I don’t think there’s going to be much travel in the Fall, so if most everyone stays local, then the chances of the virus being introduced are low. It’s all the students coming in from various parts of the country that I’m worried about.
Of course, if a school is in a city, there’s plenty of movement of people from all over anyway, so the value of quarantine is a lot less .
I completely understand the UCLA team’s statement. I played a Div 1 sport in college, and quit when the coach was pushing me to play with a bad injury, saying that if I was dedicated like my teammate that kept playing despite 3 concussions, I’d suck it up, keep playing, and delay surgery until after the season ended. It didn’t go over so well when I asked the coach where they’d be when I was 40 and couldn’t walk. ?
Another football program with lots of covid positives:
The rest of the article explains that the athletes were tested when they arrived last week. Two football players tested positive. So, evidently, either the two positive cases weren’t adequately quarantined before or after the tests, or there were other players that hadn’t yet tested positive, who developed the disease and infected others. Or the tests were false negatives.
Most of the players who tested positive were asymptomatic. Not all of them. Also, I’m skeptical about whether “asymptomatic” here means asymptomatic, or “still able to play football.” Athletes are notorious for saying they’re fine when they’re not.
Athletic departments need to stop exposing their players to communicable diseases. It’s all very well to say that the players should be variolated, but that should never happen without consent, which has not been given.
Do you think that your nephew could not be brought down by COVID-19? Because that’s not what I’m seeing. Effects NOW might be mild for younger people, but there are terrible outcomes, and we don’t know what, if any, ramifications there are down the road.
I think the big donors will be there, but no average fans.
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The AD (Warde Manuel) still sounds cautious. From today’s Detroit Free Press:
I’ve been thinking about this and here is the dubious result of Sylvan’s Friday Physics Thoughts: If you have students coming from places with higher infection rates (right now, say Texas, Florida, etc.) to a place with a lower background rate, you want to try to bring the incoming people into equilibrium with the local people (i.e. the same rate). If you quarantine the incomers, identify cases and tamp them down, then afterwards everyone is at least on the same page. The chances that Student X contracts and spreads the virus is the same as it is for Student Y, which is about the best you can hope for.
couldn’t you get the same result by requiring a negative covid test from the week before the student arrives (they would take it at home) and then a negative test on arrival?
—- Vermont has a quarantine rule. Currently so does Massachusetts and Maine (though Maine will allow you to get around this with proof of a negative COVID 19 test within 72 hours prior to entry).—-
Wouldn’t it be better to test within 72 hours before traveling to a college town for “all” college kids and proof of negative Covid test to move into a dorm plus some quarantine days after?