I thought the “S” stood for Selective.
Are there any large ones, lol?
They could do time trial style races on their own campus and compete against other schools. I know this is a thing being discussed for swimming.
https://covid19.illinois.edu/fall-2020-instruction-faq/
^ University of Illinois Urbana Champaign
That UIUC document is chock-full of hedging.
I’m not blaming them, just observing that they are making no firm commitments.
But how many liberal arts colleges are open admission? Even the less selective among the public LACs like Evergreen State do not have 100% admission rates.
Depends on the definition of “large”. Truman State, a public LAC, is relatively large for a LAC, with about 6,000 undergraduates, although it is much smaller than the largest colleges. Sonoma State, also usually considered a public LAC, has about 8,000 undergraduates.
Are there any schools that have 100% admission rates? Selectivity is a matter of degree - Top 10, Top 50, Top 100 etc.
This is barely a plan. They must have felt pressure to get something, anything, out to students. The only decisive thing I see is the decision on masks - in all buildings until you are isolated. I assume that means in your dorm room.
There are open admission community colleges.
There are some four year colleges like Granite State that appear to be basically open admission.
https://www.collegedata.com/college/Granite-State-College/?tab=profile-admission-tab
https://www.granite.edu/become-a-student/apply-now/undergraduate-apply-now/
While I appreciate colleges giving the matter careful consideration, it would seem reasonable to provide 60 days notice prior to reopening (or not). We are getting close to that timeframe now.
@NJdad07090 I use SLAC for “small liberal arts college,” as noted by
@“Cardinal Fang” .
There are colleges that have a heavy focus on LA (like Tufts, which is also a member of NESCAC), but they are not LACs. Still, I notice on CC many users throw around the term “LAC” to refer to places like Tufts and Wake Forest, even though they are not LACs. So, I make it clear I’m talking about a small liberal arts college. Further, I am in the NE.
My point was that it is not just HYPSM delaying decisions. Like professors at many colleges and universities, I still have no idea if my students will return to campus in the fall. We have been told a decision will be made “by mid-July.” While it may seem that most schools are announcing their decisions, the reality is much different. I don’t think people realize how many colleges are out there because CC users always focus on the same top 50-75. Again, you can find this info on The Chronicle’s website. Those of us working in higher ed have been having these debates for months.
Exactly. “Small” usually refers to under 2,500-3,000. Most are under 4,000 anyway.
@socaldad2002 I made flight reservations yesterday. Most airlines are offering no change fees for tickets purchased thorough the end of the month, so I decided to take advantage of that. Move-in for D will be one of two days, so we plan to arrive the morning before Day 1. Cars and hotels are usually 100% refundable.
Bingo!! We have a winner here ?.
No schools knows period. Everything will be a moving target till its not.
If you send your kid it’s going to suck. If you don’t it’s going to suck.
When they stay home they will realize from their friends it sucks but not that bad.
Someone asked the girl out and she said yes. Their going on a social distance walk tonight. Tomorrow their going to do social distance homework together. They talk for hours on Facebook.
Kids will take a gap year. For some, they will find internships or something productive to do. Many will just be home. Walgreens might need some help. That might get old fast. Some might start an Instagram account and make you tube videos and become famous… OK… Not likely
Strongly disagree with this. I believe going back will be leagues better than staying at home. Nobody is expecting a traditional year.
@TheVulcan wrote:
You’re going t have to flesh this out for me. I don’t understand why both statements can’t be true. I think you are comparing NESCAC to HYPMS, but I can’t be sure in what way. We know that Harvard doesn’t want to put its older, mostly tenured faculty at risk. So, doing the right thing puts Harvard in the plus column, morally? I should think both acronyms think they are behaving morally.
Can’t. Won’t. In my thought experiment both terms would be acceptable.
They may not have gotten a memo, but they are certainly not immune to sending up smoke signals themselves. In that respect, their behavior mirrors that of every other college in the country with paying customers.
My state just announced the guidelines for Phase 3 which starts July 1 and rough guidelines for Phase 4 which should start August 1. They are very liberal in my mind!! We currently have maximum gatherings of 15, which I think is meant for outside and seems reasonable to me (small enough to easily do contact tracing if someone turns up positive, and limits spread, but allows some mentally healthy socializing). We also require SD and mask-wearing in public places. As of July 1, you can have an outdoor gathering (ie a wedding) of up to 150! With no mask wearing required. And indoor gatherings of 50-75. Starting August 1, outdoor gatherings/parties/weddings can be 250! And I think the indoor gatherings then can be 75-100. Movie theaters open July 1 and can have up to 66% capacity. That’s a lot of people in an indoor space. Indoor restaurants, everything will be 66% capacity as of July 1.
Now, I personally think this is too aggressive, I don’t actually think we should be doing this. But if I am allowed to have a cocktail party in my house up to 75 people in July and 100 in August, why can classes only be 20 people?
One answer—no one is compelled to come to my cocktail party, whereas students and faculty may be compelled to go to class. But really I think this is going to be a very interesting experiment, if most of our states end up being pretty open this fall and allowing large crowds together indoors, yet schools operate entirely differently. So strange! I sure hope we can keep things under control and hospitals not overwhelmed.
I think there is such a NE bias on this thread. I live in San Diego County, population over 3.3 million people. We had some of the earliest cases of coronavirus, yet we still have only 332 deaths. Testing is plentiful, anyone can get a test and they are performing at least 5000 per day with a 2% positivity rate. Everyone wears masks going into stores, etc, but things are opening up. I haven’t followed the plans for schools like USD, but I would be surprised if they weren’t bringing students back on campus. UCSD, which is much, much larger has developed its own test, and is planning on testing everyone.
What state is this?
In any case, colleges might believe that your state will be in Phase 3 in July, Phase 4 in August, and then Phase 0 again in September or October.
@knowstuff I agree. It would suck to be at home but it would suck more being home and hearing about all of the weird stuff your friends are going through at school…together. Especially if there’s a chance of some in-person classes, it’s worth going back. Too bad S19 isn’t a video game player. We all need to maybe start thinking about how kids will spend their time if (when?) they have to quarantine. Class and studying does take a lot of time but not enough time to fill all day and night for seven or 14 days.
I figure kids just have to make it about 12 weeks from mid-Aug to Thanksgiving. Then they will be home and everyone can re-evaluate if needed.