Serious trouble (advice for a parent disappointment child)

<p>Memorize the following quote and recite it often, especially after you straighten out this situation:</p>

<p>“What tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive.”</p>

<p>I believe it was from Sir Thomas More.</p>

<ol>
<li>Relax. It will work out. </li>
<li>Talk to a priest or relgious clergyman. They have heard worse, and they are there to listen and advise. They do not judge but understand and empathize.</li>
<li>Get up the courage to talk with your parents. You can tell them the bare minimum or the entire story, including how pressured you feel (but don’t blame them). Go with the flow in that discussion, but try to stay on target. The target is to inform them and to get a lawyer.</li>
<li>Talk to a lawyer. </li>
</ol>

<p>You should do these things absolutely as soon as possible, tomorrow if you can. Its best to get a lawyer involved right in the beginning before anything else happens.</p>

<p>There’s a good consensus of opinion so far of what you should do next, starting tomorrow.</p>

<p>As you are dong it, start to tell yourself a new message, that you are not a failure because you are now choosing to take steps to undo this. Start to talk nice to yourself. You will make this come out okay.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, if you have ingested any drugs or substances that might be contributing to your feelings of paranoia, don’t do that right now. THis is a good time to stay sober. Try to get a night’s sleep now so you’re okay for the new tasks tomorrow. Good luck. People are with you here and don’t seem to think you have done the world’s worst thing, either. </p>

<p>So talk to: legal aid; clergyman; parents; then and only then: college.</p>

<p>"for someone reason that i cant figure out right now i applied to a university using someone elses name. everything went through fine till now. someone notified the person of someone using the name and now the person is saying that they are going to press charges on the person using their name "</p>

<p>So you used their SS number? Address, transcripts, letters of reccomandation? What did you fill out and submit with the application?</p>

<p>Fishy kid, fishy? </p>

<p>If I’m wrong about you (don’t think so) you should imediately tell your parents and face their anger. Their anger will be short and sweet now, compared to later. It’s not like your the first kid to screw up royally and get yelled at. It’s when they don’t yell, you should worry. It means they’ve given up. </p>

<p>The more I read your posts, however, the less I believe you for some reason. </p>

<p>Maybe you could lay out in detail EXACTLY what you filled out and what information you used? </p>

<p>;)</p>

<p>“It is kind of messed up to always assume someone is lying.”</p>

<p>Always? only when it doesn’t seem to a be a real possibility. Have you filled out a college app? How many pages of information, essays, LOR, and transcripts along with a check were necessary? </p>

<p>It’s kind of messed up when you suspend common sense and believe what you’re told sometimes too.</p>

<p>I dont care what you believe, Im not here to make you believe anything or entertain you.</p>

<p>I used my ss number, my address. The transcripts were sent automatically from the hs electronically. </p>

<p>I dont know if im worrying about this more then i should? Im very scared. an investgator contacted the person and told them the situation apparently. </p>

<p>i was just curious if my information would be put out, because its my ssn, my address my phone number. ive been trying to change the name on the file to just get that out of the picture. ty all for your advice, it has calm me down. i told my bestfriend my situation and she told me that she wishes i would of told her when i was thinking about doing this so she could talk me out of it. my parents have so many other issues i dont thnk they could handle this one.</p>

<p>ill keep going to god and im going to see the priest tomorrow</p>

<p>I guess I’m a little bit confused, why exactly did you take on this person’s name if it wouldn’t make any difference for your transcript?</p>

<p>Good luck nonetheless! We’ve all done that one really stupid mistake in our lives, and bounced right back up after learning valuable lessons. I know it’s hard to see it right now, but trust us, this will all blow over one day and you’ll wake up a smarter, better, humbler person.</p>

<p>I would also get an educational neuropsych evaluation to find out how you got where you are and what you need to do to get where you want to be. Read two books by Mel Levine to understand the type of tests I am talking about: A Mind At A Time and There Is No Such Thing As A Lazy Child. This process will give you an accurate picture of your educational and psychological strengths and weaknesses, as well as strategies to handle them all. I suspect that you will find some compelling reasons, in addition to bad decisionmaking, why you ended up where you are. It may be something really simple to get around, but your really need to delve into how your brain works so that you can use it to your best advantage. Many, many people are having these tests done every day all over the country. They are phenomenal tools.</p>

<p>The bottom line is that if you (with your parents and a lawyer’s help) act quickly to apologize to the individual and university, this short term problem will go away (especially if you promise to get counseling). The long term problem is to make sure that your life is a good one in the future, and you need more information.</p>

<p>Perhaps if you print and show your parents this thread, they will understand your desperation and not add to it. You need them now - make them hear and see you. Tell them you want help and will change. Forgive them if they have hurt you with their words. Easier said than done, but just do it. They love you. Parents make mistakes too. The three of you need to form a team to help you.</p>

<p>Everyone has heard of kids who have done stupid things and have grown up to have extremely successful lives. Just learn from this, and you can be one of them.</p>

<p>Although your story may be a bit confusing to us readers, I am most concerned about you and your view of yourself.</p>

<p>I agree with many of the posts here…all is not lost. Yes, there will be consequences, but coming clean and being honest with yourself and one other trusted adult is the first step in the right direction.</p>

<p>You can build yourself a life that includes the education that you desire. There is always hope, even in a very difficult situation. You have already taken the first step by coming here to seek advice.</p>

<p>Do seek counseling and help! Let us know how things are going with you! If there are so many people online who would reach out to you, there will be people in your community who will do the same, also.</p>

<p>You are worth it. Your parents’ attitude will change as they see you move toward positive changes. I hope you feel encouraged to take the first step.</p>

<p>God bless you!</p>

<p>Hard to believe this story. To apply using someone’s name, you’d need their Social Security # and need to send their transcripts, recommendations, scores, parent signature, etc. </p>

<p>I think that some student is having fun with us now that school is out.</p>

<p>Did you get accepted/accept the admission offer (if admission was offered) under this person’s name?</p>

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<p>That’s what I’m wondering. Also, hopefully, they weren’t able to fake the FAFSA. Wouldn’t that be worse?</p>

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<p>Can you re-explain? I don’t understand–you used someone else’s name with your (?) social security number and your transcripts or their transcripts?? I don’t understand? Or, did you steal their SS #? I don’t understand why you would apply using only their name but your transcripts, LOR’s, etc. Like frrrph said, why would it make a difference?</p>

<p>Your school REALLY sends your transcripts electronically? Really?</p>

<p>Hmm, Interesting. Every school my kids applied to required an offical sealed transcript fromt their school. That was about 25 schools in total. We never came accross a college or university that didn’t require an offical paper transcript. </p>

<p>You put someone else’s name, but all the other information is yours? So using the reverse directory, plus a credit check and a check with SS would turn up your real name. Yet, they accepted you as this other person? </p>

<p>;)</p>

<p>I swear I’m not lying.</p>

<p>ok I applied to the school with their name, meaning that the transcripts and test scores would be under thier name also. my hs does transcripts through an electronic system to get them faster and avoid the hasle of sending them and whatever else. the transcripts were sent, the test scores are already on the transcripts and they accepted that becauase it was sent electronically, its offical. the finincial aid information is under my name, the fininical aid office didnt ask any questins and awarded me under my real name, real efc, real taxes. i used my ssn, not theirs. everything on the application was mine but the name and transcripts, test scores. </p>

<p>why is it so hard to believe? i wouldnt be worried and making threads if it wasnt real.</p>

<p>the person found out. i dont know if they gave her an email address or what but she found me on a college online community and IMed me and then logged off, at that point i knew what was going on. i dont know her, know her but i went to high school with her. my hs is careless so i knew that getting a transcript sent to wouldnt be so hard.</p>

<p>i am praying to god that after i change the name on the file, it will die down. im so scared.</p>

<p>Letters of recommendation?</p>

<p>I’m still not buying this. </p>

<p>“ok I applied to the school with their name, meaning that the transcripts and test scores would be under thier name also.”</p>

<p>But what indentifiers did you use? Her student id? SS #, Date of birth? </p>

<p>“my hs does transcripts through an electronic system to get them faster and avoid the hasle of sending them and whatever else.”</p>

<p>How do they handle schools that want offical copies?</p>

<p>“the transcripts were sent, the test scores are already on the transcripts and they accepted that becauase it was sent electronically, its offical.”</p>

<p>Not usually. </p>

<p>" the finincial aid information is under my name, the fininical aid office didnt ask any questins and awarded me under my real name, real efc, real taxes. i used my ssn, not theirs."</p>

<p>Are you talking about FASFA? different doorway to a college. You can get finanical aid awards without being enrolled. It’s a different loop. You generate the schools for fasfa, not the other way round. </p>

<p>" everything on the application was mine but the name and transcripts, test scores. "
From randomly selected colleges… </p>

<p>(Complete The Common Application and forward with a $40.00 non-refundable application fee to the Office of Admission on the x campus. Students can access The Common Application at: <a href=“https://commonapp.org%5B/url%5D”>https://commonapp.org</a> or </p>

<p>Have the official secondary school transcript sent. Home-schooled applicants should have an official transcript from a national home-school agency or, if not from a national home-school agency, a detailed transcript with course names and descriptions from the home-school teacher sent to the Office of Admission. Home-schooled students are also strongly encouraged to visit campus and meet with the Office of Admission staff. </p>

<p>Submit one recommendation from a counselor and one recommendation from a teacher who has taught the student in English, Social Studies, Mathematics, Science or a foreign language. </p>

<p>Submit official score reports from SAT I or the ACT. (If more than one score is submitted, x will use the higher score.) Students whose first language is not English are advised to submit scores from the English Placement Test (ELPT given as part of the SAT II). Students with ELPT scores below Intermediate High will receive assistance from x English Language and Culture Program academic preparation program before being admitted to a full load of academic courses. </p>

<p>Submit the Supplemental Common Application form for x College.
If applying for need-based financial aid, complete the appropriate application (see application options). The x campus code number is 000000)</p>

<p>From another school</p>

<p>(Official high school transcript
An official transcript includes the school’s official seal, the signature of a school official, your class rank and size, and your high school coursework.
Copies and faxes do not satisfy this requirement.
If your high school does not rank class members, include a statement from your school stating its policy, a copy of your school’s profile, and a grade distribution.)</p>

<p>From yet another school
(This is required of all applicants, including transfers. To be considered official, the high school transcript must be sent directly from the school or submitted in an envelope sealed by the school, and must bear an original signature of a school official and/or an original school seal. Faxed copies are not considered official)</p>

<p>Ya wonder why I’m not buying it? ;)</p>

<p>fishy fishy fishy</p>

<p>But kid, if you aren’t pulling everyone’s leg, just go let your parents know and the school and take your lumps now. Potentially, the longer you wait the more trouble this will become for you. Right now, it’s just embarassement, later it will be fraud and identity theft. </p>

<p>If you are telling the truth, tell your parents today and the school.</p>

<p>If you applied under your name, SSN, etc.-- I don’t understand how a transcript under a different name would result in your acceptance…
It seems like the applications under both names would be incomplete – yours would be lacking transcripts and scores, and the other person’s would be lacking everything else. Also, all the schools I’ve heard of require test scores to be sent directly, not through the school.</p>

<p>This whole story makes no sense.</p>

<p>i dont understand why this doesnt make sense to you. </p>

<p>i am alittle reliefed though sad, I recieved this email in my inbox today.</p>

<p>“We regret to inform you that we must withdraw our offer of
admission for the Summer Term. We must do so because of the
inconsistencies on your various applications. I have four applications
and/or updates from you with name, social security number, and birth
date changes. For now, your record will reflect all information provided
on your first application.
In this age of identity theft, we err on the side of caution,
and because of the number of changes made to your application, a stop
was placed on your file. In order for us to reconsider your application
further, we must receive a certified copy of your birth certificate.
(Because of the damage done to your birth certificate, I would suggest
you request a new one.) In addition, all academic records (high school
and college transcripts and test scores) must match what is on your
birth certificate.
If you have any questions regarding the above, please do not
hesitate to contact me. A certified letter stating the above will also
be sent to you. If you wish to appeal this decision, you are welcome to
meet with the Admissions Committee on June 20.”</p>

<p>does this mean, it’s over? that it, their just withdrawing my application?</p>

<p>I dont think it makes sense to you because you would never think that it would really work this far. it has.</p>

<p>when i applied i used all my information BUT my name, I used the other person’s name instead. everything they got was on that person name. they accepted the test scores from the transcripts which i didnt expect. the aid information was under my real name, they awarded me under my own name but it would come up under the person’s name on my student access log on thing because my ssn was still the same.</p>

<p>when i first applied the other person had applied the year before with her information and the files became all mixed in together causing a confusion to happen and not knowing which person is who. </p>

<p>it hurts because i wanted to go to this school very badly, but i deserve what i got. </p>

<p>ty all for your advice.</p>