<p>Whenever anyone from any gender acts in such a disgusting manner, they are degrading themselves. It’s not anti-female. It’s anti-slutty immorality.</p>
<p>Since there are a couple of very descriptive tags for permiscuous gals - there should be a couple of very discriptive tags for permiscuous guys as well - just doesn’t seem to balance out does it?? The gals get all the grief and the guys get all the kudos…</p>
<p>Guys get no kudos from me.</p>
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<p>I’m sorry - I guess I just don’t understand your comments regarding this issue. Have you read my posts or are you deliberately choosing to be obtuse? I have stated, for the record, that I am very well aquainted with the school in question, the graduates, the students, and the aspiring students - and have given details of my experience. </p>
<p>Based on my extensive experience, I am not a fan of that culture that is Duke. And, like, mini, I happen to believe that “cultures and subcultures continue to exist because the students like them that way…” </p>
<p>I understand that you have a different opinion of Duke. I’m truly happy for your son if he has found a good match there. My opinion of the school happens to differ - dramatically. That is the value of CC, individuals searching for information can find varying perspectives. </p>
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<p>Well, when someone accumulates the number of posts you have on one topic, it’s a little hard to miss.</p>
<p>Chipper - I will say I think it is a bit much to assume people to search off-thread for your previous statements. To me, that is in keeping with the kind of arrogance that you attribute to us Duke folks.</p>
<p>It is unfortunate that your family has had such a bad experience with Duke people, though I have to say your comment to me above
leads me to believe that, at this point, you are not particularly open-minded towards Duke people in general, and that perhaps some of the later experiences were self-fulfilling prophesies. I also believe that your statements regarding “Duke Culture” do describe some of the students here, but not all, and not a majority, and not even enough of a plurality that could be legitimately used to call it “Duke Culture.” I, of course, do not know the extent of your contact with Duke other than the hires you describe and your son’s peers and I would never diminish your opinions of those people; I would, however, vigorously disagree that your extrapolation of those experiences is valid within the context of Duke as a whole.</p>
<p>Not being obtuse Chipper.
I haven’t seen the details of your extensive experience at Duke.</p>
<p>I’m not sure how anyone would know or care how many posts another poster would have on any given topic. If another poster is not interested in a specific topic, they can freely choose not to go to that thread. Most of my recent posts are on the Duke lacrosse thread. As I said, I am very disturbed by the fact that the whole “issue” could be based on a false accusation of rape. That does not really say anything about my son, or whether Duke is a good match, or what my opinion of the school is. I think that no one should be falsely accused of rape. The name of the school in question really doesn’t matter. However, no school should be demonized based on a potentially false accusation either.</p>
<p>That said, I hope that your son will find a good match. I do not even know if he has applied anywhere, but obviously Duke doesn’t interest him. That’s fine.</p>
<p>One could well take the Duke out of ‘‘Duke culture’’ - and just replace any school/city/town there - all places - schools/cities/towns have … cultures - sub-cultures - of the very same type that is being discussed. Of late it has become known tho as the Duke culture due to various happenings in Durham that has involved Duke students - it is very easy to label a school/place when the eyes of the world are watching over every single tidbit of news. It will be another place soon.</p>
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<p>Well since you put so much stake in anecdotal evidence, a girl from my high school chose Duke over Harvard and Yale with no merit money whatsoever.</p>
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<p>You mean HYPSM? <em>shrugs</em> Because they are. But if you’re referring to say, a school like Dartmouth, I would argue that they’re not definitively more prestigious, and any perceived differences in prestige are due to personal or regional bias. In any case, it’s certainly not due to Duke students being vapid or entirely unimpressive, regardless of what you may believe.</p>
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<p>Your statement is rather disingenuous. You’ve deliberately minimized the list of people I have mentioned, preferring to include only “hires” and my son’s “peers” when, in reality, I included many others in my list. And, btw, I didn’t use those terms to describe the groups you did include and wonder why you changed my wording. I can only assume that in so doing you are trying to make it appear that I have less knowledge of Duke than I stated. You may convince yourself that this is further evidence of my “self-fulfilling prophecy”, I see it as a willingness to misconstrue the evidence presented.</p>
<p>This is one example of why I told the previous poster who was trying to understand the differences in Duke and Chicago, that I found the graduates of Chicago to be Gentlemen/Ladies and Scholars and could not say the same for graduates of Duke. </p>
<p>I have nothing to gain or lose from these discussions except to state my opinion for the benefit of others who may care to investigate the college for themselves. You, however, have your diploma to protect and 1sokkermom has her son’s. </p>
<p>Let the buyer beware.</p>
<p>CHIPPER - can you please be less generalized in your statements - how can you say that graduates of another school are gentlemen/ladies/scholars - and then make a blanket negative statement about Duke - I am certain that there are less than the best coming out of both schools - a generalized and blanket statement certainly proves nothing.</p>
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<p>You are correct - I did not include the Duke graduates your age that you met. I did describe the hires you describe - yours, your husbands, and your friends as well as your son’s peers. Not sure which “many more” I am missing, but I hope that including portions of your post above will inform any reader that was misled by my “rewording.”</p>
<p>I certainly do not feel a need to protect my diploma, nor the future diploma of 1sokkermom’s son. I do not know the extent of your contact with Duke, so I am not sure where that is disengenious. I have not taken you on as a field of study, for example. I stated that I had no intention of diminishing your opinion of your contacts with Duke students, and would certainly be willing to expand that to say I have no intention of diminishing your opinion of your contacts with Duke alumni, friends of Duke, or anyone else. </p>
<p>I continue to disagree with your extrapolation of Duke, writ large.</p>
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<p>Oh please. :rolleyes: This goes for any school, Chicago included.</p>
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<p>Excuse me, I stated that “I found the graduates of Chicago to be Gentlemen/Ladies and Scholars and could not say the same for graduates of Duke.” “I found” as in MY experience. Your mileage may vary.</p>
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<p>Are you suggesting prospective students should put more stock in the opinion of someone (very) loosely connected to Duke over those who have direct experience with the institution itself?</p>
<p>It sounds like Chipper has a chip on HER shoulder!</p>
<p>Well said Motherdear LOL - you beat me to it…</p>
<p>I think those of us looking at schools need and want to hear all these opinions. While hooking up might be common at most schools, overall school cultures vary widely. Rolling Stone may be wrong, but they certainly depicted smart, beautiful “popular” women as being subservient to male athletes. Duke, based on their own report, seems to be behind several other colleges I looked at in emphesizing non Greek social cultures. And I do have to admit, Duke’s only sway for me was the merit money.</p>
<p>What parents know what really goes on? Sokkermom, do you really think your son tells all?</p>
<p>Banana, I’d still like to hear why you considered leaving.</p>
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<p>this is eyepopping- makes duke look just swell</p>
<p>suze - I probably should have worded my initial post on this subject better. While there are things I don’t like about Duke’s social scene, my primary reasons for considering a transfer or dropping out are highly personal and I would rather not share them, sorry.</p>
<p>And being that college kids start at 18 or 17, how many of these drunk people are ALL over 21 years old…uhhuh, thought so</p>
<p>Having a few drinks is one think at 19, drinking to this extent under the full approval of the school is just gross</p>
<p>Really disgusting</p>