Shopping for new dishwasher...ugh

<p>Our old builder quality dishwasher has been on its last legs for a while, but now with the new noise like a jet engine, I’m sure it’s going to find the path of least resistance out of my house within the next couple of days. The good news is that we’ve already looked and thought we had it narrowed down to a few contenders, but the reviews on the Lowes, Best Buy and Sears sites are all “BEST EVER” or “WORST JUNK EVER” and nothing in between. I am so confused and just don’t know what to do. We will be empty nesters in a year when last child goes off to college and we aren’t sure how long we are planning to keep this house, so I want to keep it between $450-650 for a stainless tub, stainless outside quiet LG, Bosch or Whirlpool. Has anyone bought one recently that they love? I know, I know…I’m just going to run into the same thing here with the “love it” or “hate it” problem.</p>

<p>I am not a big fan of LG, talking to my local service guy (fixing our old refrigerator I refuse to get rid of), he said LG’s tended to break down a lot. I have a Bosch dishwasher in your range, have had 2 others and I really, really like it a lot. The first one we got rid of because we have hard water (I mean hard as anything) and the heating coils were exposed. The second Bosch we had had a different design, but ended up getting destroyed thanks to the way it was installed (they had a wire whose insulation got worn off, then caused a short that destroyed several things, it was bad install, not the unit). My third one is a hunny, hopefully will have it a lot of years to come. The Bosch is very quiet, and uses a lot less soap and water than comparable dishwashers in my experience and cleans well. </p>

<p>Your comment about the LG is interesting to me. We had to replace our front loader washer and dryer last year and opted for the LG units and they’ve been great. I understand, though, that the quality doesn’t run through an entire line equally. My husband really liked the LG dishwashers when we looked until I saw that the reviews are pretty bad. Basically what you’ve said about the service guys saying to steer clear. So, I guess that just leaves us with the Bosch. Again, seeing a lot of mixed reviews. Did you ever find that your Bosch units didn’t dry your dishes well?</p>

<p>With any of the high efficiency dishwashers, you need to use something like jet dry, otherwise they all can have problems drying the dishes, but when we use Jet dry we don’t have that problem. It is also very possible that an appliance manufacturer can make a great washer and dryer and make a crappy dishwasher, or maybe with dishwashers it depends on the luck of the draw with LG. I looked at LG’s refrigerators when deciding whether to repair my old sub zero or get a new one, and I wasn’t impressed with the quality of the refrigerator I looked at, but again, may not cover. </p>

<p>The other dishwasher on the higher end is Miele, they are supposed to be pretty good, too. I know consumer reports liked some of the ‘standard’ dishwashers, like Sears Kenmore and Whirlpool, but when I looked at them I wasn’t all that impressed either, and their repair records are so-so. </p>

<p>We bought a Bosch and it started leaking just after the end of the warranty period. They couldn’t or wouldn’t do anything to help us. One of my friend also had problems it’s hers. I will not buy one again.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, Miele is about double the desired budget. Now, if we were going to stay in this house another 12 years I would consider it, but probably not the case. I’ve always been happy with the Kitchenaids I’ve put in previous homes, but I hear they are not the same anymore and to steer clear of those now! I feel so defeated when it should be fun to bring something new and shiny home, especially when I’ve dealt with this horrific Frigidaire for 8 years.</p>

<p>When we bought our house 5 years ago it came with a Bosch that was 2 years old. It has never leaked, cleans and dries dishes well (although we use the “air dry” method to save on electricity). We did need to replaced the motor but since we have a home appliance insurance policy that was covered and we have not had a problem since. At the time there were 5 people in the house and we were running it at least 3 times a week. </p>

<p>Sseamom, as much as I am hoping for good Bosch recommendations, I’m not sure telling me about a blown motor is a selling point! (Wink!)</p>

<p>Oh, I know, but it does such a better job than the contractor’s special we had at our previous home. I think the heavy use after being used quite rarely by a little old lady (literally) had something to do with it. But I did want you to get some input from a Bosch owner. Oh, and it’s so quiet we never know when it’s done unless it beeps.</p>

<p>Yes, we are really attracted to the low decibel rating of the Bosch units. We have an open floor plan, so that’s important. It will be so nice to not have to shout a conversation over the din. (I’m joking…sort of…) With the holiday sales this weekend, along with the fact that I don’t plan on going without a dishwasher for more than a day when that thing blows up, we will have to make a decision soon. Has anyone here bought a Kitchenaid in recent years? I was so loyal to the brand and I hate to give up on them. </p>

<p>I bought a Kitchenaid with a stainless liner about 7 years ago. The unit has been problem free except for a newly squeaky door. At the time it was the quietest unit available which was important to me since we tend to live and congregate in our kitchen.</p>

<p>The unit I bought replaced a 25 year old Kitchenaid dishwasher. When I told the salesman, he smiled and guaranteed that any new dishwasher I buy today (including Kitchenaid) will likely need to be replaced in 7 years. Nothing like fine quality and planned obsolescence!</p>

<p>I bought a 800 series Bosch recently. I wasn’t planning on it. Got caught up in the hype at the store. All the Bosch have the same working parts. The series just gives you some extras. </p>

<p>Cons: my dishes and glasses don’t fit well at all. I get less in
It uses too much jet dry although you apparently can adjust it.
Cycles are really long.</p>

<p>Pros: On mine there is a quick 30 min express cycle. I use this ALL the time, otherwise cycles are way too long.
Its quiet but so are lots of machines now
stainless steel tub and easy to empty filter( strainer)
No heating dry cycle so I assume I might be saving energy $
a top third rack silverware holder that separates all the utensils but you have to touch the dirty silverware to place it in.</p>

<p>I bought an extended repair warranty (something I now do that I always refused to before.) However, the Bosche already come with an extended policy so I got ripped off. MIne might cover some things the other one doesn’t but I am mad at the store for not telling me about the Bosche policy. </p>

<p>Wouldn’t buy again for the price. I had a kitchenaid stainless steel inside before that I really liked.</p>

<p>Sadly I have had to replace dishwasher, double oven, washing machine and garage door tension bars in the last 6 months and now my fridge is making noise. Not even mentioning the car repairs!</p>

<p>Everything is breaking at the same time…aarrgghhhhhhhhhhh</p>

<p>By the way I tried to repair my Kitchen aid which wouldn’t drain. I took the whole thing apart. Inside the machine I found a number of bread ties (wire and plastic) and some nuts. They had jammed and gotten into the motor. They had gotten by the machines internal strainer in some mysterious way</p>

<p>How did this happen? (she who rinses dishes asked herself).</p>

<p>My theory: My sink drains into the same drain as the dishwasher. The sink also has a garbage disposal on that same side. When I wash big pots etc by hand I fill up the sink. When the full sink empties it empties into that drain. I think the ties were in the sink and went down the drain tube into the dishwasher innerds bypassing the filter. Soooo…I recommend emptiing the sink with a strainer in it at all times.</p>

<p>We just replaced our 7 year old Kenmore Elite dishwasher (which never impressed me) with a Bosch. I used it for the first time last night. It’s in the 800 series. I liked the 3rd rack or I would have gone down a level. It is amazingly quiet. Yes, they are all quieter now than they used to be, but the Boschs are the quietest. </p>

<p>I was considering a Whirlpool and if our situation was the same as yours, I think I would have gotten that one. It seems to me to be a good value for the price. It’s cheaper than what I bought, but then they aren’t exactly apples to apples. </p>

<p>My dishes fit perfectly in the Bosch. They are Corelle. If I had thick ceramic plates, then I think I’d need another dishwasher. Corelle plates are very thin. If you have large or thick dishware, it would be a good idea to bring some to the store to see how it fits. </p>

<p>We have a Kenmore Elite. I really like it. We normally buy most of our appliances from Sears because DH used to work there years ago. However even as good as their appliances are I am not sure I would buy from Sears now. Why? Because they seem to be in some financial trouble.</p>

<p><a href=“Photos That Show Why Sears Is in Trouble”>Photos That Show Why Sears Is in Trouble;

<p>Also last couple times I have made appointments with them.(Air Conditioner and to fix 12 year old dryer ) They were able to come out the next day… That’s never happened before. I always had to wait a while for an appointment. I just think that people are going other places. So I’m not sure I would want to buy a major appliance at a retailer that might not be around much longer. :frowning: </p>

<p>We got a Bosch, and we really like it. It’s very quiet and cleans the dishes very well. </p>

<p>I looked at Kenmore Elite and Kitchenaid as well. </p>

<p>If it’s going to die in seven years total, I on,y have 5 more years until I get to make this decision again.</p>

<p>Sax…out house is 20 years old. We replaced the range, fridge and dishwasher so far. Just keeping my fingers crossed from day to day about the washer and dryer, and microwave.</p>

<p>We recently bought a Bosch “ascenta”. I really like it. I do not use Jet Dry. I don’t mind if dishes are a little damp and like to avoid extra chemicals. It seems to work fine without. It is unbelievably quiet and really clean well.</p>

<p>Mr B ripped the old Bosch-made DW out and installed a Miele for me. So far, so good. </p>

<p>At my former company, we had an Asco dishwasher in the kitchen - minimal number of bells and whistles, but it cleaned the dishes extremely well. I was very impressed wih it. It is a Swedish brand:</p>

<p><a href=“Asko D5434XXLS Built-In Stainless Steel Dishwasher Review - Reviewed”>http://dishwashers.reviewed.com/content/asko-d5434xxls-built-in-stainless-steel-dishwasher-review&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If we had not installed the Miele, I would have seriously considered it. </p>

<p>I got my Bosch 800 series a few months ago. First d/W that I like! so quiet. I don’t care that I have to let the plastics air dry. I’m all for energy mode. I truly like the 3rd drawer for utensils.</p>

<p>A washer repairman on campus clued me in to a newer issue: more of the working parts are now plastic, than in our old workhorses. Also on another thread like this, folks said the key to a better (more complete) drying cycle was not to open the door until the machine says done. YMMV.</p>

<p>I had a wonderful, quiet and quick Whirlpool- with adjustable top shelves (and I used that feature all the time- eg, when you put something tall on either rack, you just turned the L and R knobs to adjust the clearance.) It also had a framed front panel, so we could have put in an after-market stainless steel piece if I converted the other appliances to SS (which I have been thinking about, forever.) When it died after maybe 18 years, we replace it with a functional and handsome Kenmore, enough bells and whistles without being more than I need. </p>

<p>Oh, progress. :frowning: The wash cycles are now longer, even the light cycle (something about how water is sprayed to conserve. I guess I like that. But it takes much longer. And all are pretty much like this today- same with washing machines, btw.) No adjustable shelves. I did go (again) for silverware on the door, which I find adds needed space in the compartment. Yes, so quiet we can’t hear it.</p>

<p>Imo, go for the features you like, anticipate what you may want/need in those. I did read a lot of reviews and to be honest, could not see the need to go with the most expensive. </p>