Singaporean connection

<p>You know what’s the worst thing about you? You have a lot of wrong assumptions about everything and everyone, but you actually believe you’re correct! Get away from your books and take a hard look at the people around you. Get to know them. Did I ever suggest I was privileged? You assumed it from the fact that I got into Princeton as a Singaporean from a top school, and you refuse to believe otherwise because you just can’t be wrong. You can’t be wrong! That’s not the way it works in your little cocoon, is it?</p>

<p>Seriously. We don’t care if you swam to America and set a world record in the process. There was once when maybe people here took pity on you, but that’s prehistory.</p>

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<p>You never corrected this assumption before. That’s how it works for most of the people in this thread. In fact, I had not envisioned it this way until CC.</p>

<p>Well! If you did actually instead get in from pretty humble origins, as opposed to most of the other people on this thread, then I’m sorry. You instead have my sympathy and respect, low as you may think of them. I reverse everything I’ve ever said about you, and ask you to accept my profuse apologies for my previous hostility.</p>

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<p>Really? Not even when I said I got a near-full ride to Princeton, and when you retorted that Princeton gives out money like it’s nothing and so that doesn’t mean anything?</p>

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<p>This is hopeless.</p>

<p>I’m sorry you see it that way.</p>

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. If you want to apply this year, it’s quite late to start. Have you asked your teachers for recommendations?</p>

<p>. Are you applying for Financial Aid? I don’t think you can get government scholarship with those grades. If you are paying your own way, it is much easier.</p>

<p>. Do you want to attend large state schools that are renowned (say, Penn State) or are you fine with smaller colleges (Pomona, Carleton, etc)?</p>

<p>. Since you don’t want to do engineering, a lot of the smaller colleges might be suitable for you. However, are you sure that you’ll be fine with going to a small college that no one in SG has heard of, as opposed to NUS or NTU?</p>

<p>. I might suggest Australia to you, because, if you would be able to pay for US education, Australia is definitely within your means. If you do the Foundation Year studies at Trinity College in Melbourne, and achieve good grades, you can easily enroll in Melbourne University, which is definitely more famous than some of the smaller US colleges. (and less troublesome to apply for) Refer to this link: [SgForums</a> :: Singapore’s Online Community - Studying in australia, please, please advice!](<a href=“http://sgforums.com/forums/12/topics/319448]SgForums”>Studying in australia, please, please advice!)</p>

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<p>Having a full ride and having a low EFC are sort of two different things. In any case, I take what I had said back.</p>

<p>galoisien, I don’t think you’re a bad person. Just think through what you say before you say it, and don’t assume you know everything about every topic. Listen to what people have to say and respond to them properly instead of constantly going off-topic. And yes, my EFC is very low, and it’s probably gonna get lower next year.</p>

<p>“I might suggest Australia to you, because, if you would be able to pay for US education, Australia is definitely within your means. If you do the Foundation Year studies at Trinity College in Melbourne, and achieve good grades, you can easily enroll in Melbourne University, which is definitely more famous than some of the smaller US colleges.”</p>

<p>Please do this only if you cant get into NUS, NTU, or SMU. I mean, Australian Universities are only good in Australia. Do you know any highly ranked officials in Singapore who are Aussie graduates? I’m not saying it’s bad. But I just think Singaporean top 3 universities are better than any Aussie universities. However, this is only based on my own experience. And by that, I mean I’ve seen lots of my friends who failed their O levels went to Australia and got into top universities like Monash and Melbourne. So, please think twice. Educations in Caucasian countries aren’t always superior to local ones…especially when it’s being compared to Singapore (one of the 3 Asian Tigers).</p>

<p>I would like to take this opportunity to clarify my exact reasons why I recommended Australian universities. </p>

<p>To put it bluntly, the poster’s grades are horrible. Getting into his preferred faculty is near impossible. Going to an Aussie university and excelling there, in his chosen field, is far superior to going to NUS/NTU/SMU and studying in some lousy faculty (which he’s not interested in) </p>

<p>So the choice could boil down to between US LACs and not-highly-ranked state colleges, or Aussie top universities. One option is far more expensive, and far more unknown.</p>

<p>For that matter, even if many ‘lousy’ Singaporean students attend the Aussie universities, let’s consider the statistics of the peers at colleges the OP could get into. Look, Michigan is not is a realistic option. It’ll be small LACs and ulu-state colleges, far down the rankings. In which case, I don’t think that the US peers will far out-perform the Aussie peers. In fact, most Aussie top students end up at Aussie universities anyway. (like my IChO friend who’s at UWA)</p>

<p>Since we’re back to comparing US small colleges and not-highly-ranked state schools, which government officials graduated from those places anyway?</p>

<p>^ 4 asian tigers, to be precise XD</p>

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<p>Oh, I don’t know, do ministers count?</p>

<p>[The</a> Cabinet - Dr Lee Boon Yang](<a href=“PMO | The Cabinet”>PMO | The Cabinet)
[The</a> Cabinet - Mr Mah Bow Tan](<a href=“PMO | The Cabinet”>PMO | The Cabinet)
[The</a> Cabinet - Mr Khaw Boon Wan](<a href=“PMO | The Cabinet”>PMO | The Cabinet)
[The</a> Cabinet - Mr Raymond LIM Siang Keat](<a href=“PMO | The Cabinet”>PMO | The Cabinet)</p>

<p>Why all the anger and hate? If it’s any help, NS is the reason Singapore is safe and sound. Galoisen: Perhaps it’s not publicly known just how often SAF has achieved successful deterrence…</p>

<p>Speaking of being a citizen of the world, there was this guy long ago in my ocs wing who proclaimed that he was a ‘global citizen’ and made trouble for everyone. Needless to say that attitude was pegged to lots of arrogance, pride, and elitism.</p>

<p>On the other hand, 2 other guys came into the wing later on, and spent at least 80% of their lives in the US/UK.</p>

<p>Just an anecdote of course. I don’t really mean to link that mindset with arrogance.</p>

<p>Hey, im new to this thread. I noticed that this thread seems to discuss ocasionally about the Ivy League Universities and also the face that some of the members in this thread have been accepted into the Ivy league Schools or other prestigious academies in the US like Stanford. As i will be starting JC in January next year, i was curious to know how much a role does the name of the JC you are in play a role in the admission process to the Ivies. An example would whether there would be a major difference between a applicant from RJC and a applicant from AJC, both of whom are appealing to say Wharton, even if they have the same credentials. Thanks a dozen</p>

<p>I personally think that the substance of your application: SATs, essays and CCAs will make up the bulk of their consideration, rather than the name of your JC. </p>

<p>But your JC can help in small ways. You must realise though that top JCs, especially RJC, have experience sending students to top colleges. They have a clear and efficient system in place for students to apply to US colleges, and have teachers and counselors who know the importance of good recommendations and good relations with the colleges. This doesn’t matter if you can educate your teachers on writing good recs :)</p>

<p>Not to mention that top colleges have accepted many many alumni from top JCs and have a level of familiarity and even comfort with the JC and the JC’s university counselors. Those top JC alumni also have a proven track record at those colleges, so the colleges have reason to be confident with choosing an applicant from those JCs. But I imagine it’s a deciding factor only between two equally qualified applicants.</p>

<p>But really, if you’re a good applicant, colleges will be eager to accept you even if they’ve never heard of your JC. They go by merit and want to assemble the best possible class, and basing their decisions mainly on the JC name doesn’t help them. They’re not going to choose a RJC applicant over you if you’re better. The name of your JC is a very small factor. </p>

<p>fyi, AJC sent someone to Princeton a few years back.</p>

<p>I see, thanks for the information:) Curious also because im in Maris Stella currently and i think that it isnt exactly the best school that you can get yourself into, especially if you are hoping with your fingers crossed to get into a Ivy University. Oh, by the way, is it possible to find out how many Singaporeans normally get into Whartons undergraduate course for business yearly or at least a average number of fellow citizens??</p>

<p>wharton? the number is extremely small. small enough that it isn’t worth your time making any predictions or anything else of the sort.</p>

<p>haha…noted. btw, how helpful are H3 subjects in gaining admission to overseas universities in places like Australia or US??</p>

<p>^ Ivies and equivalent expect you to take the hardest course load - which means 12 points under the new A-level system. It would definitely be good to take 1 or even 2 H3s.</p>

<p>To add on to what screwy mentioned, the main reason why top JCs seems to send so many students over to HYPSM and the like is because there are simply many more students of Ivy-calibre in those JCs (the usual - straight As, SATs > 2200, etc…). If you are from a neighbourhood JC but has Ivy-level stats and achievements, there is no reason why they would not want to take you.</p>

<p>guess what you said must be quite true cause i know of a few people whom got to Princeton on full scholarships with no bonds attached…By the way, is Anderson considered neighbourhood cause i think i will be going there and i have heard contradicting rumors that it is and isnt a neighbourhood JC…</p>

<p>^ Does it really matter whether AJC (or any other JC for that matter) is a neighbourhood one? Won’t matter in US admissions.</p>