And the right to fly isn’t even a constitutionally guaranteed right. It should be terrifying to people that the government thinks it can deprive a citizen of a constitutional right merely by deciding, arbitrarily, that they belong on a “list.”
Background checks though, not only work (no evidence supports No Fly lists, which even the government admits intentionally don’t include the actual bad people), but are consistent with civil liberties. It’s less catchy than “No Fly, No Buy” though, so I see the politician’s dilemma.
Rep Tammy Duckworth, who represents part of suburban Chicago (not my specific area, but close), got out of her wheelchair and is sitting on the floor. For those who don’t know her, she lost her legs while serving our country.
what was in the Republican proposals that was objectionable to the Dems?
they want more than a vote, clearly, since they just voted 4 times this week.
A cynical person would say the Dems intentionally voted against integrating mental health further into the background checks and voted against having a judge make ruling on whether or not people can buy guns, for the sole purpose of attempting to score political points in an election year.
bonus points: John Lewis was on the no fly list for a period of time (incorrectly, obviously).
They just voted 4 times. Go check the record. You can see which Democrats voted against integrating mental health further into the background check and allowing a judge to block purchase to those that are on (or were on) the no fly list.
@Ynotgo unless it only takes 1 house to pass a bill, this is a political stunt and nothing more
that said, it does look like the Dems are winning
what’s an assault weapon? can you define it for us?
btw the new proposals would impact all guns, yes? so what type is not an issue.
also, is your position really that as long as you don’t want to exercise your rights, it is ok for the government to take them away? What if this was the 4th amendment? or 5th? Who cares if someone takes away due process, since you aren’t going to do anything wrong, right? The supreme court did its own best effort to cut the bill of rights this week, when they ruled you can stop someone illegally and run their information to see if you can arrest them.
i’m sure this thread will get shut down soon, as it is mostly full of people cheering for partisan political theater. But it was fun while it lasted.
cheers all.
edit: does anyone think it is weird that arguably the most privileged people in society are conducting a sit in? lol
I agree! We are so caught up in the gun violence and terrorism that we don’t see how frightening the proposition is. The person hasn’t done anything and yet his or her rights are restricted and people applaud. It’s almost as scary as crowd yelling hi hitler. New McCarthy Era, this time brought on by Dems.
There’s nothing reasonable about putting people on the list without any recourse. Do ban assult weapons but don’t put people on the list and condemn them. No way that’s something to celebrate. Amazing how readily people give up their rights. That’s even more frightening.
(I say as someone without twitter!)