State colleges close doors to seniors with good grades

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<p>The University of West Florida, located in Pensacola, has billboards I’ve seen all over the Tampa Bay area advertising for students. UWF also has tons of ads on Tampa TV stations. UWF actually has billboards within a stones throw of the USF campus in Tampa. For most Floridians, UWF seems like it is in Alabama or Georgia. There are other enrollment opportunities at some of the state university branch locations like USF-St. Pete and FSU-Panama City etc. Things are getting tight at all the universities. I thnk I saw Florida Gulf Coast University had a waiting list of around 1500 freshmen applicants.</p>

<p>My sister is a high school junior and is getting ready to send her apps out soon. It’s going to be a more challenging environment for her than what I went through 2 years ago.</p>

<p>is UWF even a good school? </p>

<p>the cc in my town fccj is now 4 yr (florida state college).
i hate how a good education is so exclusive.</p>

<p>I don’t know much about UWF other than it is one of the 11 Florida state universities, it has an undergraduate focus, it is not too big, it is in Pensacola, and it doesn’t have a football team. I just mentioned it in above post because I saw their advertisements. Is it a good school? I’m sure one can get a good education there. I tend to be a contrarion, and believe a student that takes advantage of all the resources at pretty much any college and also studies hard and applies himself will get a good education at any college. The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence, but I think a good education isn’t as elusive as it sometimes seems. Maybe the more important question is: Would UWF (or any other college) be a good school for me? Maybe check UWF out, just as you have done with FSU. You may even eventually decide to continue where you attend now. Good luck!</p>

<p>FSU is my best in-state choice. UF is harder than FSU to get into, and FSU has got my major. Which may be axed, but we’ll see!!</p>

<p>UWF is not hard to get into @ all.</p>

<p>UWF

  • 36% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
    • 16% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
    • 13% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
    • 16% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
    • 15% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
    • 3% had h.s. GPA between 2.0 and 2.49
    • 1% had h.s. GPA between 1.0 and 1.99</p>

<p>Parent2noles, you do realize that quote in context was an appositive only describing UF. Especially so since it says right after "That meant UF accepted 6,600 freshmen out of a pool of 28,000 applicants. </p>

<p>FSU does NOT have a 4.2 1300 admission base.</p>

<p>Nice quotes out of context though.</p>

<p>The article stands on its own. The writing is as the author prepared it.</p>

<p>that’s for sure, since I know I don’t have a 4.2 gpa…</p>

<p>maybe fsu admissions saw my awesome character?
:D</p>

<p>haha.
yeah i don’t know of anyone with above a 4.0 that was accepted.
they had around 3.5.</p>

<p>We did a swim meet at UWF, and it was an absolutely gorgeous campus. The pool is indoors, with glass walls, so you look out at the pine trees while you’re swimming.</p>

<p>The campus is almost in a hilly area, so no worry about flooding if a hurricane comes.</p>

<p>Pensacola is a wonderful, sleepy little town, and a couple of hours from Mobile, Alabama, and a couple more to New Orleans.</p>

<p>The Gulf of Mexico is not far from campus, and in Pensacola, the water is crystal clear and the sand is white. Just awesome.</p>

<p>Back when I was in college, it was a senior college, one you transferred into after community college.</p>

<p>It is now a four year university.</p>

<p>It offers premed, as I know a couple of doctors who did their undergrad. It also offers computer science. </p>

<p>For those looking for a state uni in Florida, I would definitely check it out.</p>

<p>That article is wrong anyway. UF intends to ENROLL a class of 6,600 students, not accept. They accept more than 6,600 because not everyone who gets admitted to UF ends up enrolling (like me, for example…)</p>

<p>Mello, not everyone enrolled at UF has a 4.2 (weighted) either, nor a 1300 SAT.</p>

<p>UF

  • 88% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
    • 8% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
    • 2% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
    • 1% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
    • 1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99</p>

<p>FLORIDA STATE
* 47% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
* 28% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
* 14% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
* 9% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
* 2% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99</p>

<p>source: Collegeboard. I don’t know if this is this year’s stats. It could be last.</p>

<p>Those are current per the most recent Common Data Sets. However, the CDS reflects only Fall admissions. Summer admits are lower.</p>

<p>See: <a href=“http://www.tampacatholic.org/academics/guidance/sustable.pdf[/url]”>http://www.tampacatholic.org/academics/guidance/sustable.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>That chart is very interesting - thanks for providing it.
I wonder what the qualifications look like for students who received Spring admissions instead of Summer or Fall.</p>

<p>You’re welcome. :)</p>

<p>Note that the averages and ranges reflect accepted freshmen, not enrolled. The numbers for all schools are therefore quite optimistic.</p>

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But it really isn’t; not in the information age. For most students, the difference between School A and School B is the name on the diploma. It’s just a brand, like the badge on a car. The knowledge itself is always out there for you to find on your own if you really want it. Education is a personal experience, and it doesn’t begin and end with your school or your teachers.</p>

<p>Only the 5% or 10% of students who become closely involved with their program will see a difference in the advantages afforded to them through that reputational prestige (I’m deliberately excluding the schools like Harvard, where nearly the entire student body is like that).</p>

<p>My Calc III instructor at FSU was absolutely horrendous - this guy did little more than copy down examples straight from our textbook, and very often got them wrong at that. I learned nothing from the lectures. Ultimately, I taught myself the material out of a book that I bought off the shelf for $12 at Barnes and Noble - nothing exclusive about that (aside from the self-discipline required to pull it off). I’m absolutely certain that there are plenty of Calc III instructors at schools with “lesser” reputations who would have done a far better job than that guy did. On the other hand, I also had plenty of instructors whose enthusiasm and ability to communicate would scarcely be equalled anywhere else.</p>

<p>And do you really think the students watching taped lectures at UF are the beneficiaries of a superior education? Consumerism and branding at every level…</p>

<p>P.S. - please excuse my cynicism. Having worked my way through far too many years of higher education - first in the liberal arts and later in STEM - I’ve developed a perspective that doesn’t go well with the traditional attitude.</p>

<p>that was an awesome chart. thanks!
there’s quite a contrast between fall and summer acceptances for all schools. </p>

<p>i do wonder about spring though. i would assume it isn’t competitive.</p>

<p>Well said, akhbhaat.</p>