Submitting SATs

Let’s return focus to the specific question asked by the OP. Responses should be made to their situation only.

Additionally, the discussion of race and admissions is limited to one thread, and only one thread, which is located in the Politics Forum

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Is this with weighted GPA calculated the same way by the high school and all three of the colleges, or do the colleges take high school weighted GPA at face value?

If not, such weighted GPA comparisons can mislead.

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Yes, his GPA is weighted. College A and B’s posted GPAs are also weighted. College C’s is unweighted (3.9) and S26 is also a 3.9. Oh and I need to correct my statement above that S26’s GPA puts him at the 50% for College C as well.

But are they all weighted the same way?

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For instance, some high schools weigh
+.5 for honors, +1 for AP/IB
Other HS weigh
+.01 for honors, +.1 for AP/IB
Or
+.1 for honors, +.3 for AP/IB
Other high schools weigh
+0 general
+.5 college prep
+1 accelerated
+1.5 honors
+2 AP/IB

Your HS’ way of weighting grades may not be the same as the way each college does it, and colleges may do it differently from each other.

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If from the CDSs, different colleges complete/calculate the GPA field in different ways (if they even fill out that field.) As ucbalumnus says, unless you know how they are calculating the wGPA and/or what classes they are including in either the wGPA or uwGPA (all courses? core only? is pltw core? etc etc) it’s impossible to compare your S’s GPA to those ranges.

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I see your point. So how can we choose which schools may be a more target/likely or safety if the info we have on GPA is what each school lists on the CDS?

Do a chance me

Some schools, like UF and UGA, note their system.

UF is +.5 for Honors and +1 for AP. Other schools have different.

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What schools have a no harm policy?

I believe U Chicago is no harm last I checked.

Of the ones we’ve visited, UChicago, F&M and Conn College emphasized their no harm policy. I’m sure there are others.

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Interesting! Did you simply ask an admissions officer at each school?

They typically all talk about their testing policy during the info sessions but it’s possible someone asked specifically. It definitely wasn’t me.

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UChicago and Conn College both brought it up directly in their admissions sessions that I saw. The UChicago admissions officer said in the info session something to the effect of, “We look at your SAT score, and if it doesn’t look like it’s going to help you we blast it into space and forget we ever saw it!”

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We got pretty much exactly the same spiel. On the other hand, the Lehigh and Vanderbilt reps (at a recent college panel as my D26’s school) emphasized that once they see the low score, they cannot unsee it and urged everyone not to submit below average scores that will not help and may hurt.

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They can say it but at U Chicago 76% submitted and they’re showing a 34 25th percentile and 35 75th. And for SAT 1510 and 1560. So I’m not sure I’d believe it although I have no reason to doubt them.

Conn College is different - they need you more than you need them. CC shows 66% submitting - but an 1160/1400 split - so many more will qualify - especially with an affluent database - and perhaps that affluence is tied to the admission decision?

So I suppose it can be true - but especially at Chicago, I wonder if it’s true for all that they’ll unlook.

Of course, the two schools are on different hemispheres in regards to student quality - if measured by stats.

I just googled and checked their site, and Denison University also follows a no harm policy.

Here’s the admitted student ranges for Class of 2028, so I would say yes, they are really reading with a test no-harm policy

https://collegeadmissions.uchicago.edu/apply/class-profile/

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Do those low-end test scores all get revealed during the application process or do some of them only get known after admission?

Also not sure how many of these lower ACT/SAT scores. and how many of them are hooked in some way.

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