<p>What do you think about the Tim Tebow PSA regarding abortion scheduled to play during the Super Bowl? Personally, I only want to laugh at the ads and don’t think it is an appropriate place for it.</p>
<p>Perhaps I’m a cynic but do we know that story is true? Does that matter? I can imagine that his mom in retrospect “remembers” things a bit differently. Just sayin’…</p>
<p>I guess they’ll show anything if you’ve got the money.</p>
<p>Here’s a cute story about an ad that will be shown. CareerBuilder.com had a competition for a Super Bowl ad and our friend’s son entered. His start-up company was one of three selected to produce a commercial, but they don’t know which one will be chosen. All three companies were paid, but the exposure, if chosen, is invaluable. Here are the three, if you want a good laugh. His is the one with “the woman in the middle”.</p>
<p>[CareerBuilder.com</a> TV Commerical](<a href=“http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:QSjXRpwtIWkJ:www.careerbuilder.com/tv/+careerbuilder.com+superbowl+commercial&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us]CareerBuilder.com”>http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:QSjXRpwtIWkJ:www.careerbuilder.com/tv/+careerbuilder.com+superbowl+commercial&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)</p>
<p>Those CareerBuilder commercials are great. Though it looks like your friend’s son’s commercial was rejected by the NBC censors. Given this thread, I find that ironic.</p>
<p>The superbowl is not an appropriate time/place for the Tebow commercial. But ad costs are down, not all ad have been sold, and CBS has lowered their standards/changed their requirements and will take ads like this. </p>
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<a href=“Tim Tebow Super Bowl Ad: Anti-Abortion Commercial to Air - ABC News”>http://abcnews.go.com/WN/tim-tebow-super-bowl-ad-cbs-air-controversial/story?id=9667638&page=1</a></p>
<p>Whatever. What worries me is that this is just more fuel for crazy people to decide to take out a gun or gasoline and take out lives of health care providers.</p>
<p>Probably better suited for the Political Forum but here’s a link to a petition in protest of the ad:
[Stop</a> Anti-Choice Super Bowl Ad](<a href=“http://www.notunderthebus.com/?page_id=886]Stop”>http://www.notunderthebus.com/?page_id=886)</p>
<p>I wonder what the whole story is too. I think the mother should release her medical records and someone should track down the physician. Privacy laws mean we just have to take her word for it. ick.
I think Tim Tebow is nothing more than an arrogant weenie anyway. I think wearing his religion on his sleeve (eyeblack) during a football game is inappropriate and very unChristian-like. Can you imagine if an opposing player named Abdul wore “Praise Allah” on his eyeblack?
The way he bawled on national television after he lost was just pitiful.<br>
Note to self: I will never cheer for the NFL team he plays for and he better never play for the Pats.</p>
<p>I guess I don’t have a problem with the ad, even though, yeah, no one can verfiy its veracity. I’m big on free speech. I think Tebow, however, is starting to look like a whack-a-doo. He didn’t have a good NFL tryout, and I imagine teams won’t like – who does? – people who are so in your face, regardless of the issue.</p>
<p>I looked at those commercials. LOVED Casual Friday. Not big on fart jokes, though I’m sure every other person in my family would love it. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>His SAT score was CR/M 880 so what do you expect. Sorry but mix religion, money and marginal smarts… I am not a fan.</p>
<p>^ Too funny–only on CC will a NFL superstar be judged by his SAT scores!</p>
<p>With his skills he did not need to worry about the SAT score. Maybe he did not take it seriously. Ralph Nader did about the same. If you don’t like the as you are free to buy your own. But don’t try to block free speech on the public airwaves. BTW he had around a 3.7 college GPA</p>
<p>"Tim Tebow wins prestigious Campbell Award as nation’s top scholar-athlete
Senior quarterback Tim Tebow won the William V. Campbell Trophy on Tuesday night, an award which honors the nation’s top scholar-athlete as has been referred to as the "Academic Heisman.‘’</p>
<p>The award (formerly known as the Draddy Trophy) includes a 24-inch, 25-pound bronze trophy and a $25,000 postgraduate scholarship. A total of $300,000 was awarded to Tebow and the other 15 Campbell Trophy finalists, who each claimed $18,000 scholarships for their post-graduate education.</p>
<p>The award was presented in New York Tuesday night.</p>
<p>Tebow joins former defensive tackle Brad Culpepper (1991) and Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Danny Wuerffel (1996) as Gator winners of the award, which recognizes a student-athlete for combined academic success, football performance and exemplary community leadership. Florida now has the most recipients in the 20-year existence of the award.</p>
<p>“This award means so much because it’s not just how you play on the field, it’s not just what you do in the classroom, but it’s what you do as a leader and someone who is going to serve your community,” Tebow
said. “That’s what’s most important about this award, because all these guys are great players and they’re extremely intelligent, but more importantly, they’re good people. They help their community and they
make a difference in this world.”</p>
<p>I read the article about the ad. It says the ad doesn’t mention “abortion” or “pro-life,”
just his personal story. I’m not sure why people would protest–you can’t really “disagree” with their story without sounding like you think his mom SHOULD have aborted him. . .
Being “Pro-CHOICE,” means supporting a woman’s right to choose—even if she chooses NOT to have an abortion. </p>
<p>Also, I’m amazed that the first response is to doubt the truth of this story, want to look up her medical records. . .lol </p>
<p>If someone on the other side of the issue wants to tell a personal story (about how choosing to have an abortion had a positive–and preferably football-related–result), he/she can buy an ad–and provide medical records, as proof, too.</p>
<p>This thread should be on the politics board, and I expect it will be moved there.</p>
<p>I have no problem with someone advocating their political views. However, I do find it strange to say that Mrs. Tebow was “choosing life” in making the difficult choice to risk her life hoping to save her unborn baby.</p>
<p>According to what I’ve read on the Internet, Mrs. Tebow had had a partial placental abruption already in this pregnancy: the placenta had already partially ripped away from her uterus. She was at high risk of having a worse placental abruption, in which case she would quickly bleed to death, her unborn child would die as well, and her four other motherless children would get to watch her and their baby brother lowered into the ground. That is not choosing life; that is choosing to risk her life.</p>
<p>We can all be happy that everything worked out well for the Tebows. But I see no reason to believe the doctors were wrong. They said she was at high risk, and it certainly sounds like she was. Suppose you are playing Russian roulette, and I say, “Stop! You have a big chance of killing yourself!” If you don’t stop but pull the trigger, and you are lucky and live, you don’t get to tell me I was wrong. No, I was right, you did have a ridiculously high chance of dying. Similarly, the doctors who told Mrs. Tebow she was risking her life were, presumably, right. I’m glad she didn’t die, but they were right to say she might.</p>
<p>The Tebows are presumptuous in telling other mothers what they should do in that difficult situation. Abort a loved, wanted unborn baby? Or risk leaving the father a widower and the other children motherless? That’s not a choice anyone wants to make, and the unfortunate women who are forced to make it should be supported in whatever choice they make.</p>
<p>Hey - I am all for free speech. Good for Pam Tebow in ignoring her doctor’s advice. I don’t know what her complications were but I can hardly think of one that would make me choose to abort my own child.</p>
<p>The ad has not been released but she is expected to talk about how she had pregnancy complications and ignored her physician’s advice to abort the pregnancy. How she does this without mentioning abortion - I don’t know.</p>
<p>My distaste is that she and he are grandstanding. By this proclamation she is conferring “Jesus” status on Tim. She is also telling every woman with serious pregnancy complications to ignore their own physician’s advice and she too will give birth to a Tim Tebow.</p>
<p>His ridiculous crying on the sidelines - no attempt to gain control of his emotions - when he lost a game shows a lack of sportsmanship and character. He exudes an “it’s all about me” persona. This advertisement doesn’t change my mind.</p>
<p>Focus on the Family sure has accomplished it’s goal - they have gotten attention.</p>
<p>Cross posted with CF.
Do you know how many weeks into the pregnancy this complication occurred?</p>
<p>Hey - I just googled Pam Tebow and according to timtebowfans.org Pam was suggested to abort because she was taking strong medications for amoebic dysentery. The fear was the medicine could cause a disability.</p>
<p>“I think Tim Tebow is nothing more than an arrogant weenie anyway. I think wearing his religion on his sleeve (eyeblack) during a football game is inappropriate and very unChristian-like. Can you imagine if an opposing player named Abdul wore “Praise Allah” on his eyeblack?
The way he bawled on national television after he lost was just pitiful.
Note to self: I will never cheer for the NFL team he plays for”</p>
<p>JustAMom, my thoughts exactly. All I could think of while watching the beginning of the UF bowl game and listening to all the Tebo hype from the announcers was “what about all the other guys who played on the front line and protected him…do they not count?” I turned it off because I couldn’t handle the Tebow talk.</p>
<p>As for his 3.7 GPA in something such as family and consumer sciences…no offense but it’s not exactly a feat of higher intelligence that requires superhuman effort and a national award.</p>
<p>Personally on superbowl sunday, all I really want to see is funny lighthearted commercials. I support free speech but I think this PSA is only going to serve to polarize people even more.</p>
<p>Let’s just assume what Mrs. Tebow says is true: she was pregnant, the doctors told her if she remained pregnant she was risking her own life (and of course the unborn baby’s as well), she chose not to abort. How is that “choosing life,” and how can she be so presumptuous as to assume that every other woman in that situation should make the same choice? </p>
<p>What if the woman has other children? What if she has special needs children who require a lot of care? What if the woman’s chance of dying is very high (pre-eclampsia, say)?</p>
<p>On edit: now I see that the story is that Mrs. Tebow was told the drugs she was taking might damage the baby. What if the doctors told her the drugs <em>would</em> damage the baby, and in fact the baby would be so damaged it would never meet any developmental milestones and would have seizures every five minutes? Should every woman who hears that awful news be forced to keep the pregnancy? </p>
<p>Are we all supposed to believe our doctors are wrong? If I think my doctor is wrong, my solution is to find a new doctor, not ignore what the present one is saying and hope everything will be dandy.</p>
<p>“Note to self: I will never cheer for the NFL team he plays for”"</p>
<p>not sure you’ll have to worry about that…guess he’s not doing too well at the senior bowl practices. not surprising, though…</p>
<p>when he cried after the game i lost any respect i might have had for him. if it was a last second loss, i can see getting a bit emotional, but he was getting his butt kicked the whole game. he had plenty of time to reconcile with the loss.</p>
<p>"now I see that the story is that Mrs. Tebow was told the drugs she was taking might damage the baby. What if the doctors told her the drugs <em>would</em> damage the baby, and in fact the baby would be so damaged it would never meet any developmental milestones and would have seizures every five minutes? Should every woman who hears that awful news be forced to keep the pregnancy? </p>
<p>Are we all supposed to believe our doctors are wrong? If I think my doctor is wrong, my solution is to find a new doctor, not ignore what the present one is saying and hope everything will be dandy. "</p>
<p>Perhaps she is trying to show that there is a choice, get a second opinion, offer life to a child who may be disabled…
I have heard doctors offer abortion as an option for such things as gestational diabetes, non-life threatening fetal heart conditions, exposure to x-rays in the first trimester.</p>