<p>TM’s family listened to the audio of the scream at the same time in the Mayor’s office. Law enforcement was not present said the former Chief of Police.</p>
<p>Former Chief said that in a line up people should be asked separately about pictures or audio so that one person will not influence another person.</p>
<p>Thank you ttparent for the link to GZ’s reenactment. (post #209).</p>
<p>In that particular GZ version, he didn’t say anything about TM jumping out of the bushes. He said TM approached him around the T area and asked him, “Yo, you got a problem?” GZ replied no, he doesn’t have a problem then he looked down to look for his cellphone then that is when TM gave him a punch strong enough to make him fall down on the ground (btw, that’s one big Hulk punch as he seemed to have landed from the T all the way to the second house’s backyard) and somehow TM got on top of GZ. GZ said he started screaming for help then TM grabbed his head and kept slamming his head down on the cement. TM placed his hand on GZ’s nose and the other hand on his mouth. A neighbor comes out of his home and it’s funny while GZ is either being smothered or his head is being slammed on the ground, he manages to have a conversation with a neighbor. </p>
<p>GZ: “Help me”
Neighbor: “I’ll call 911”
GZ: “No, help me. I need help.”</p>
<p>Then GM’s jacket lifted up, TM saw his gun, reached for it and GZ felt TM’s arm going down to his side. So GZ grabbed TM’s arm (reenacts the grabbing with his left hand) and grabbed his firearm and shot him (motions with his right arm).</p>
<p>Hmmm….From the time TM allegedly punched him, GZ, with his MMA training, basically did not fight back, just lay there like a rag doll screaming for help all the time and his only defensive move so far was squirming. Nothing about raising his arm to even block the punches or biting while he is being smothered. The only time GZ decides to make a defensive move was when TM allegedly reached for his gun. That’s the only defensive move he did: grabbed TM’s arm with his left hand as he grabbed his gun from the holster.
So much for exhausting every reasonable means to escape the danger, other than using deadly force on Martin.</p>
<p>From the July 7 Washington Post: "5 Myths about the killing of Trayvon Martin by Jonathan Capehart.</p>
<p>Myth1. On the night of the shooting the police ordered Zimmerman to stay in his vehicle. …</p>
<p>"Who the aggressor was that fateful night is the central- and most unanswerable - question of the case… Sean Noffke, the police nonemergency dispatcher testified on the first day of the trial that it is dispatchers’ policy not to give orders to callers. “We’re directly liable if we give a direct order,” he explained. “We always try to give general basic… not commands, just suggestions.” So “We don’t need you to do that” is different than a more direct “Don’t do that.” Under cross examination Noffke was asked whether his requests for updates on what Martin was doing encouraged Zimmerman to follow Martin. “It’s best to avoid any kind of confrontation, to just get away from the situation,” Noffke said.</p>
<p>Myth 2: Martin broke Zimmerman’s nose.</p>
<p>Zimmerman says Martin came up behind him and cold-cocked him square in the nose, knocking him to the ground. In numerous television interviews, Zimmerman’s brother Robert has said unequivocally that George’s nose was broken, But that was never definitively diagnosed by a doctor.</p>
<p>According to Sanford police officer Michael Wagner’s report, “Zimmerman’s face was bloodied and it appeared to me that his nose was broken.” Officer Jonathan Mead made a similar observation. But according to police reports, “Zimmerman declined … to be transported to the hospital in order to be examined by a doctor for his injuries.”</p>
<p>To return to work Zimmerman needed medical clearance. The report from Altamonte Family Practice completed the day after the shooting notes that Zimmerman told the attending assistant physician that emergency medical personnel on the scene the night before told him he had a broken nose. But the Altamonte report states: “We discussed that it is likely broken, but does not appear to have septal deviation. The swelling and black eyes are typical of this injury.” Zimmerman was advised to be evaluated by an ear, nose and throat specialist, but “he refused”.</p>
<p>Myth 3: A widely circulated photograph of Martin wearing a Hollister T-shirt shows him much younger than he was the night he died. </p>
<p>For more than a year an “up to date photo” of Martin has been shared online. The person in the photo is the rapper Game, who was about 30 years old when the snapshot was taken for XXL magazine in 2010.</p>
<p>Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump told the article’s author (Jonathan Capehart) in February that the Hollister T-shirt photo of Trayvon was taken in August 2011, when he was 16 years old. That was six months before he turned 17, on Feb. 5, 2012. He was killed three weeks after that.</p>
<p>“Trayvon Martin was no criminal. May he rest in peace. He was killed because of someone stalking him, and assuming that he was a criminal.”</p>
<p>This seems the core to me. If I were on the jury, it wouldn’t make any difference to me whose scream it was. It wouldn’t make any difference who was on top or who was on bottom.</p>
<p>Myth 4: Martin’s death led to a reexamination of “stand your ground” laws.</p>
<p>In reaction to the tragedy in Sanford, the Florida governor appointed a panel to examine the state’s law. But a year later, the 19 member Task Force on Citizen Safety and Protection recommended that the eight year old statute not be repealed. No other state has rolled back a similar law.</p>
<p>Right. He was no criminal, and yet the jury is going to hear that he had THC in his system when he died. But of course they won’t hear what influence GZ might have been under, because the police didn’t bother to test him. This too seems fundamentally wrong to me.</p>
<p>I’m betting GZ was hepped up on some so-called ADHD drug.</p>
<p>Myth 5: On the night of the attack, Zimmerman made racial slurs that proved his prejudice toward Martin.</p>
<p>Originally, many thought Zimmerman had said, “F----ing coons”, but since then it has been cleared up that the second word was actually "punks’. Zimmerman was asked about this during his February 29, 2012 interview with then lead detective Chris Serino, and it is no longer in dispute.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the 5 myths article.</p>
<p><a href=“http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-03/opinions/40348822_1_george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-trial[/url]”>http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-03/opinions/40348822_1_george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-trial</a></p>
<p>I wonder if the jurors will discount the testimony about the screams being GZ. I mean if it is so key that the scream was GZ and that proves his case he is free to take the stand and scream.</p>
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<p>[Judge:</a> Martin’s use of pot may be presented](<a href=“http://bigstory.ap.org/article/zimmerman-trial-defense-continue-its-case]Judge:”>http://bigstory.ap.org/article/zimmerman-trial-defense-continue-its-case)</p>
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<p>“His case???”</p>
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<p>But to be authentic we’d need to have a 158 lb black boy “ground and pound him”. ;)</p>
<p>I think the jurors will go around the table, each will shout, “Help me,” in a high-pitched voice, and they will know that it is not possible to know for sure who is yelling.</p>
<p>I am tempted to post on my FB page that if any of my friends shoots and kills someone, I will not be testifying for them.</p>
<p>That he was being attacked and it was necessary to defend himself. Isn’t that his case to prove reasonable doubt?</p>
<p>Related to post #244. In the video that ttparent provided, GZ said he went to the pathway to go towards Retreat View Circle to give the police an address. His truck was parked at Twin Trees Lane. The home with the address 1211 Twin Trees Lane is right there to the right and entrance of the pathway. So, why couldnt he give that address? Why the need to go further down towards Retreat View? During this time, he was still talking with the 911 dispatcher. GZ never gave him the Retreat View Circle address which according to GZ was the entire purpose of why he walked up the pathway. Instead of giving the Retreat View address, he agrees to meet by the mailboxes. But wait, in the 911 call, he changes his mind and he says just call me and then hell say where he is located. Why would you say that unless you decide to do more stalking?</p>
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Why is this important to me? Proves the stalking and more lies on GZs testimony which is not believable.</p>
<p>Well if they bring in the THC, the defense ought to be allowed to bring in a drug expert to testify to the fact that THC makes you LESS violent and LESS aggressive and LESS coordinated. The pot use makes The defendant’s story even less credible IMHO</p>
<p>The State has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that when GZ shot and thereby killed TM GZ was not acting in self defense under Florida law.</p>
<p>At least at the elected representative level, Florida does not appear to be pot-tolerant.</p>
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<p>WoW. I hope the judge was right to allow this into evidence. Did the voire dire address the jurors’ drug/pot attitudes? This could be a game changing/determining ruling.</p>
<p>5’ 11" male that the paramedic assessed at the scene as 20 yo. Tattoos (2 places). Smack talking “Crazy ass cracker.” Semi-literate friends who use the word “■■■■■■■■.” And, now “drugs.” AND, it comes end after the prosecution has presented it case in chief.</p>