Congratulations and best wishes to your daughter!
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The OP has merely received a verbal commitment from a D3 coach without an ED advantage.
There is so much more to learn from this experience:
Is this commitment for ED2 or RD?
If ED2, will the OP withdraw all EA/RD applications…or not?
If only RD, is there will the OP honor the commitment if lightning strikes?
What was the thought process to choose a D3 program with a slow swimming team over sure things like McGill and Toronto?
At the end of the day, it is likely the D3 school that made the offer was not on the OP’s original list when he started this whole thread, so I feel some level of progress and learning occurred over the last 12 months (and almost 2400 posts). Did they find her based on her swimming accomplishments, or is this is school she identified?
The title of this thread is Swimming Recruiting for Intl Jr, Targeting Highly Selective Colleges.
Recruiting ends with an acceptance letter. We are still far from home.
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That isn’t necessary until an acceptance is in hand. But at that point, they will be bound and need to withdraw all other applications and turn down any acceptances.
I too am confused by timing. Or will the thread be reopened when the ED decision is received?
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The OP has said they aren’t disclosing the school and users are back to guessing and making assumptions without information. As such, I don’t see the point of keeping open a thread that has a long history of being contentious.
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I’m not moderating this thread, but I’m going to add my two cents
There is no reason to keep this thread open for the benefit of future applicants; they aren’t going to (and really shouldn’t) slog through a 2400 post thread to separate the wheat from the ginormous amount of chaff.
A better help for future applicants would be for one of the parents of recruits to start a new thread, which I’m sure a moderator would be happy to pin, with tips, checklists, timing, etc. And/or start an AMA thread.
I’m happy for OP’s daughter, and I’m sure the moderator will gladly post a note when the official acceptance comes through, if the OP desires, so all can get closure.
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Congratulations to your daughter and best of luck to her! I’ve been following this thread since the beginning as son ‘25 just started the recruiting process for swimming. I’ve learned so much from this thread so thanks everyone for providing your own experiences through the recruiting process.
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D24 was offered a fully supported recruited spot by a coach she met during summer school visits, with whom she’s stayed in touch, and where she had passed pre read, with a ~10% admit rate. She liked another school better and responded accordingly to the coach. She’s hopeful to be recruited with full coach support, has had detailed conversation with the coach with regards to how many recruits have confirmed and where she ranks (Top3 in all key events). Indeed, she’s keeping all her other options before receiving a firm offer
The situation is very dynamic until acceptance really clear up
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Which is it @nivo?
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Here we go again…
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Honestly, it really isn’t that dynamic.
It sounds like you have asked the coach the right questions. So if he/she has offered full coach support in return for a commitment by D24 to apply by Jan1/Jan2 via ED2, with a Feb. decision, then you are 95% done, but you are correct to submit other apps just in case the 5% occurs.
If you are not applying ED2, that is a different story.
Those of us who follow recruiting processes would like to know if the full coach support comes in return for ED2.
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I am also confused about this. I had understood that she had committed somewhere, but it sounds like she is still shopping around?
I realize kids change commitments, but rarely this late in the game, when the coach will end up in a hole in the roster. Regardless, I have always felt uncomfortable with the ethics of this dynamic.
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Lol.
Yes, indeed, here we go again!
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But then…
So, we’re celebrating a “commitment”that isn’t actually a commitment. If it was an offer for the ED2 round it would be a commitment, so all this says is that she’ll apply in the RD round, but it’s not her top choice. And presumably there’s an ED2 app in at some other place that isn’t this last-minute offer.
She’s trying to use the recent last-minute offer as leverage to try to get an offer of support from a school she’d rather go to, but for which an offer is still not forthcoming at this late date?
This is all very confusing.
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This is very confusing!!
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It’s not usual for a swimmer to commit to one program and then change. This usually happens at the D1 level, where the swimmer has been courted going into their junior year. Lots of things shift between junior and senior year. Change of coaching, improve times, better financial packages . . . I’ve know several high level swimmers do this dance right up to the application period. Now this is my personal bias, at the D3 level in particular, which my son committed, once you’ve committed to a program in your senior year, you stop shopping, unless something unexpected happened like a change in coaches. Swimming is a small world and you don’t want to burn any bridges.
To add: trying to pit programs against each other is a dicey game. You could find yourself without any support.
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More evidence this thread should be kept open…
The OP is playing a dangerous game…
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Just when you thought things couldn’t get more convoluted!
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The issue IMO is committing with the intention of switching. A subtle but important distinction.
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Nivo, I think you are ultimately saying that she has not actually committed to any program (so, no intention of changing to another). I think the posts were just worded in a way that they are unclear and inconsistent… not sure if that is intentional (holding actual facts close to the vest maybe) or unintentional.
ETA: I think there is still poor understanding of “commit” in this context.
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