Teacher's Punishment Devastates Grade

Hello, I’m a student in a small town in Georgia about an hour north of Atlanta called Calhoun. I am the valedictorian and STAR student of the 2015 senior class. My AP Literature teacher showed us My Fair Lady and asked us to take notes on it so that we could write a comparative essay on the movie and the novel, Frankenstein. There was no prior notification that we would be graded on our notes, we were simply told that they would be ours for writing our comparative essay, yet two days later the entire class is freaking our because we all received 40’s and 0’s on our notes, which dropped my grade from a 94 to an 89, while her other AP Lit class was not graded for their notes from the first half of the movie. When we went to her class that day she proceeded to explain how terrible our note taking ability was and how she was not going to accept that level of work. After being lectured for a good 10 minutes I spoke on behalf of the class and told her that “We were under the assumption that the notes would be for personal use and therefore were not meant to be taken and graded on whatever scale she came up with.” She proceeded to tell me that even if they were for personal use, mine along with the rest of the classes were terrible, so after being insulted I explained that in this situation the comparisons are so evident between the movie and the book that I did not need to take detailed notes and was simply making a light framework to help me remember what I was going to write about. I also told her it’s ridiculous to grade the class on some rubric she randomly came up with while she was grading personal notes of ours and that to give us such horrid grades that destroyed our overall grades isn’t right.

She proceeded to tell me that her name was on the door which gave her the right to do as she pleases and that if I couldn’t handle the class that I shouldn’t be in AP (which is a preposterous statement seeing as that I am an AP Scholar with Distinction and Honors and already had made a 5 on AP Language & Composition and therefore already had the credit I would get if I passed the AP Lit exam), I told her that I was forced into that class because my AP score was too high to sign up for the dual enrollment course in literature our school offered and it would take away from the rigor of my schedule if I took anything else. After being told I never wanted to be in her joke of a class where all the grades our either vocab tests with false examples and tests she gets off the internet, she became irate told me that I didn’t know anything and that “If you knew half of what you thought you did, you’d be as smart as Einstein.” (another ridiculous statement since I don’t claim to be smarter than anyone or know any more).

She then kicked me our of class, and 20 minutes later we went to the assistant principal’s office where she threatened me by saying “If you ever talk to me like that again, you’ll be lucky if you’re in a class at all.” (what exactly she was trying to say is beyond me), and told me that after I left she told the class that their bad grades would be replaced with a grade she’s taking from another set of notes from the second half of the movie and that that didn’t apply to me because I was not in the classroom and had spoken our against her. Now, I know it’s against some law or rule to punish a student by denying him an opportunity offered to the rest of the class, but I have no idea where to find this law and I do not know what to do about this situation.because I know the administration will not do anything about it. My grade getting knocked down 5 points in the last two months of school is not acceptable, especially in a situation like this where it was based on my personal notes. If anyone knows where to find the Ga state law that says this or what to do in this situation, your suggestions would be much appreciated.

I don’t think her punishment was necessarily fair, but you were incredibly rude. First of all, never bite the hand that feeds you. Insulting the teacher who is determining what your grade is may be one of the dumbest things you could do. Secondly, she’s the teacher. She decides how she wants to grade, what assignments she gives, and when they’re due. It doesn’t matter how much or little you like this as the student. She’s the teacher and can make that distinction. If you think it’s unfair, you can talk to the head of the department about it or POLITELY bring it up with her.

You did neither of those things, and furthermore you acted like a condescending snob about it. What you should go do immediately is formally apologize to this teacher and try to make amends as soon as possible. You may not be able to get credit for the second half of the notes, but she may remember that you tried to show humility and may be more generous when it comes time for your final grade. And for the future, don’t act like this. You’re a student and should treat your teachers with respect. It’s disgusting that you think that it’s okay to speak to a teacher like that and then just be handed your A. You failed to do the work for her class and your grade suffered because of it. Improve your work ethic and attitude and show some humility when you speak to a teacher next time.

Preposterous. She’s a real ____. On the bright side, it’s second semester senior year pfft grades. Though, students should be able to take notes how they wish to. It is after all for their personal use. Everyone studies and learns differently.

My work ethic is not lacking, I have specific ways I do things and when it comes to notes specifically for an essay, I make a framework so that I have my main points and such in one concise paper. I was not expecting to be “handed an A”. I have worked my entire high school career to be at my ranking, the teacher was berating the class telling them how terrible their notes were, I simply told her that “we thought they were personal notes”, so that’s probably why they weren’t up to AP standards or whatever you’d like to call it. She proceeded to directly insult me, tell me I shouldn’t be in her class and I just agreed with her and told I was made to be put in it. I respect all of my teachers, they all seem to like me and this is the first time I have ever had an issue with any of them. When an entire class’ grades have been hurt like that and the teacher starts to lecture them unjustly, I don’t believe me simply telling her what the class had thought when given the assignment was warranted insults or was an issue in any way. Teacher or not, the students deserve the same respect, and like I explained, I was trying to help the discussion and keep her from being upset with the class’ work. I wasn’t trying to disrespect her, and in other occasions teachers have appreciated me explaining issues such as this one. I did not intend to come across as snobby, and I’m sorry if I upset you with my post. I included the little asides enclosed highlight the quotes of what she said with reasons as to why they were unwarranted and shouldn’t have been said to begin with.I’m not some kid crying for an A, everything is set in stone as far as ranking and honors go, and I’ve already been accepted into the college of my choice, so the grade does not matter. Students have has problems with this teacher for years, so it’s not just me. Like I said, i did not even have a problem with her until she insulted me directly. I never once asked or expected her to change the grades, like I said I tried to ease the obvious tension in the room between her and her students by explaining why the notes were the way they were. I just do not wish to have teachers who can harm grades like that for reasons such as those. Your opinion is warranted though, I’m not always the best in expressing my feelings or telling stories in general when I’m upset. Sorry if I bothered you.

You insulted a teacher publicly. I’m not surprised she reacted as she did. Just because you make top grades and work hard doesn’t give you the right to insult anyone. I don’t see how you thought you were easing the obvious tension in the room.

Learn from this experience and move on. By the way, I was valedictorian at my high school and had a LOT to learn at your age when it came to people skills. Ha, still working on that, to be honest.

You are a legend

As someone who agrees with you but has a bit more life experience…
Think of it this way…you got put in the class to learn something and you certainly did. Just not what you were planning on learning. This really cheap lesson in human behavior is probably saving you more time and angst in life than you will ever know.

Ok - here’s what I would do if you were my son or daughter.
I would schedule a meeting with the teacher, the principal, you and me all present together in one room a day or so later after everyone’s temper cooled off.
The next part may be difficult - but - I would have you apologize to your teacher for overreacting and state why you overreacted.
Then, I would chime in and second that my kid is sorry and a good kid, and punishing four years of hard work over a single outburst for a kid who truly cares is extreme. Then, I as the parent would ask if there were another punishment more fitting such as apologizing to the teacher in front of the class that would be more fitting and productive.
The key to this working is humility. You may not like it, but there it is.

@Nerdyparent‌ I think this is excellent advice and will likely work, rescuing the grade.

You should decide what’s more important to you, being right or saving your grade.

If saving your grade is more important, then you should pull all the stops out and say that you overreacted, apologize, etc. (everything but kowtow to the teacher.) The key is to get a principal, parent, superintendent, whatever, involved. Bring your excellent past academic record up.

Also, I’m not a legal scholar, but I highly doubt there’s something in the law that would help you…

WOW!!! I wish I could stand up to a teacher like that…

Apologize to your teacher. Your actions were way out of line. You are not her equal; you are her student. Do you feel that you took the best approach? Did you honestly expect a positive outcome by calling out your teacher in front of the whole class? You sound like an academically bright kid but you just got schooled.

Is there a different class you can switch in to? Seems like you have beat on your chest like a junior cave man but now it is time to move on. BTW, your grade isn’t destroyed when it goes from a 94 to an 89 but your integrity sure took a hit…

I am really surprised there are not more consequences to your actions. Your parents must be really proud.

Yes, she overreacted and was speaking and acting in the heat of the moment. But so did you. In any case, she is your teacher and I think the first thing you need to do if you expect anything to get better is apologize in person. Just say you are sorry for the way you spoke in class and you were just upset at the time. Then readdress it a day later and ask if there is anything you can do to make up that grade, and EXPLAIN why it is important to you (nicely). If she is still reluctant, then maybe you could go to the principal’s office during lunch or something and explain your concerns. Don’t act like you know it all or that she was in the wrong- because you are too. I agree what she did was unfair, but I also agree with her that you were disrespectful. Basically you should just apologize, explain, and then if you need to, get others involved. If nothing happens, then whatever. At least you tried. But don’t let your temper fly off the handle again.

Or you could leave your parents out of it and act like a mature high schooler who can own up to your own actions. Apologize in person and ask if there is anything you can do to make it up. If it is still important to you, you could get the principal involved (not your parents), but that still involves telling the principal what you said as well… which may not go over so well. He’d probably give discretion to the teacher. Welcome to high school, kiddo. Learn from your mistakes.

Hey man, something close to this happened to us (the teacher later got demoted to teaching a lower level class, which still sucks for those students who have her now), but you should have taken it to the principal. Think of it like this. You need to win against her–what she is doing is wrong, and I know how it feels, but directly telling her affects you. Do you think a teacher that bad will have the common sense to realize what she is doing wrong all of a sudden, let alone after you call her out in front of everyone else?

You pretty much HAVE to apologize to her now. If that hurts your ego, think of it like a diplomatic apology, only for formality. Whatever it is, the bottom line is, the teacher is out of line, but so are you with the way you reacted. Doesn’t matter that she started it. “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” – From idk

Wow, I’ve been teaching since 1980, and not once has a student ever spoken to me like that. How incredibly disrespectful.

If one of my own kids did that, let’s just say they wouldn’t be posting anything online for quite some time.

It strikes me that having your grade go down 5 points is “not acceptable” but that your own actions were, in your opinion.

Sorry, I think that in your shoes I would have been too embarrassed by my own poor behavior to post it anywhere, much less ask for help in recovering points lost because of substandard work in a college level class.

The assignment was to take notes. You did a poor job. Then you flew off the handle and had a tantrum? And, as far as I can see, you still think that you were right.

And, no, to the best of my knowledge it’s NOT against the law to send a disruptive and/or disrespectful student to the Assistant Principal’s office. I think that if it were, then no student would ever be suspended.

I say you calm down, consider this a lesson in life, and apologize to the teacher. Not as a grade-grab, but because you were wrong.

                 I wonder, considering how much specific information there is in the first post, easily identifying the designated  valedictorian and STAR student, that this isn't some kind of set up? 

@bjkmom I’m sorry. I’m really not here to bash anyone, but I respectfully disagree (all in the name of a constructive argument–nothing personal, okay?).

Of course, his actions were not justified, but at the same time, it is not right for the teacher to do what the teacher did. Once again, I agree that as a student, he should not have gone off on the teacher.

However, I feel that the teacher still did a poor job in teaching. You were probably a good teacher, so it might come as a surprise to you, but there are bad teachers out there, and I had the misfortune of having one.

This teacher does have a right to collect notes as a “pop quiz” or whatever, but the fact that she did this for one class and not others is inherently wrong, and probably against some law. Also, according to OP, this was NOT an assignment. While OP did something wrong on a more “moral” level, the teacher did something wrong on a legal level by creating unequal opportunities upon unsubstantiated evidence. Furthermore, to have an assignment specifically when the student is out of the classroom on “school purposes” and denying the opportunity to make it up signifies more examples of a hate crime via discrimination and more unequal opportunities in the classroom.

In addition, for the teacher to deny a chance to make up the work for “speaking out against her” is also a violation of educational laws.

I’m sorry that I cannot site the exact laws that state this, since I’m no lawyer, but I think there are a lot of fine details a lot of people are disregarding. I know that while OP is clearly wrong, it is improper to assume that OP is the only wrong one, or the one that is most wrong. The teacher, if anything, needs to go to the rubber room if this kind of behavior is consistent.

As for OP, he needs to learn to deal with situations in a more tactful and respectful manner.