<p>CD, how rude of that IB coordinator! I swear I’d report her to a higher up. As my ds would say, What a dreamcrusher.</p>
<p>Related suggestion: A Univ of Chicago grad decided to explore cooking as a career (because it was her love/passion) and described working in 4 different kitchens in her book- Four kitchens : my life behind the burner in New York, Hanoi, Tel Aviv, and Paris ( by Lauren Shockey). Just another data point when your D is trying to determine a path forward.</p>
<p>thanks guys. I’m glad to get everyone’s perspective on this. I really just want her to have a wide range of possibilies as the years go by. As we all know, the knees are not what they once were. ;)</p>
<p>But, yes, it is also true that I won’t stand in her way if this is what she wants. Heck, my other one is a performer and a costume designer. I’m not really looking for this one to be an attorney or banker. </p>
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<p>I can tell! :)</p>
<p>I’m thinking YOU need to go to culinary school with my daughter.</p>
<p>I just found out ds1 is headed to New Zealand in the fall. Right now, culinary school in the US is sounding really good.</p>
<p>for study abroad? where is he going?</p>
<p>my oldest did study abroad in NZ!</p>
<p>I’m not sure. I’ve been in denial. I told him that if he wants to do study abroad that he’d have to figure it out and pay for it himself. Who thought he would?</p>
<p>I am so picking your brain about all kinds of issues.</p>
<p>But now, back to your dd. Are there cooking schools in New Zealand? ;)</p>
<p>CountingDown, You and/or your son might enjoy this article-- [Givaudan</a>, the secret flavor factory : The New Yorker](<a href=“http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/11/23/091123fa_fact_khatchadourian]Givaudan”>The Taste Makers | The New Yorker)
I remember it being very interesting.</p>
<p>I have also heard about problems with Johnson & Wales. I would do a lot of research before seriously considering it. (I visited there back in the 70s when culinary arts programs were considered on par with other trade schools.)</p>
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<p>My oldest doesn’t really cook. She’s barely ever home.</p>
<p>But, for you, I’m sure Paris would be better. No?</p>
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<p>Yeah. It’s all new, anyway, and fortunately she is a Jr. in high school, right now, so there is time to look at everything, which is great. I wouldn’t have a problem with her taking a gap year and cooking to see if the lifestyle works for her. I will mention that to her as time goes by. </p>
<p>My personal vision for her is a big state school business program and then culinary. I think that would give her a lot of time to have fun and study and then she can worry about work.</p>
<p>OP: 1. to prepare for this conversation, consider putting yourself in her shoes and telling us her perspective at the moment: i.e., reasons (as she would put them) that it would be better for her to NOT go to college but to go to CIA.</p>
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<li> Are you planning to tell her that you recommend college? (I understand that you won’t force her). For example: in considering college X versus college Y for her, would you offer your own opinion? Or would you simply make sure that X and Y were both fully and fairly explored? If the latter, then how is the CIA versus college decision different from the X versus Y decision?</li>
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<p>Yes. And as a matter of fact, Chef is a critical skill shortage catagory that allows for immediate immigration approval. I know, I checked a few years ago.</p>
<p>Your Son will love New Zealand.</p>
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<p>I don’t know, honestly, since I recently told my oldest that if she wanted to X, we’d be happy to pay for her to do this MFA.</p>
<p>Good point.</p>
<p>1moremom: thanks for the link to that article! I grew up in a town that had a Givaudan plant; one of my BFF’s lived 4 doors down from the plant and we always knew when they were making the garlic extract ;)</p>
<p>Maybe I should suggest BU’s certificate program for my wife. She’s a big Julia Child fan.</p>
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<p>That was pretty much my parents’ vision for me. I’m still not quite over it. ;)</p>
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<p>Is she looking for something to do? You could suggest that. Just duck right after. :p</p>
<p>Of course, you never know. She really might want to do something like that. It sounds fun.</p>
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<p>I really won’t ‘make’ her. I would like to show her her alternatives. But it’s her choice, and I will back her dreams whichever way they lead her. She will know I mean this. I promise.</p>
<p>YDS, happily S2 laughed off the comment and the coordinator has since moved on. Always struck me that the comment was very uncharacteristic. Good thing he didn’t take it personally, as the Bio teacher really enjoyed his cell models made from cake, frosting and other goodies. :)</p>
<p>When we were on a small group tour in Australia, we had a communal dinner one night on the ranch. S2 manned the grill and the young women on the tour (all twice his age) told him about friends who went to AUS to study, then traveled around the country doing short-order cooking as a way to pay their way to the next town. His eyes lit up – clearly we had failed to enlighten him about study abroad at the tender age of 13!</p>
<p>Thanks for the books and articles.</p>
<p>S2 wanted to do college first. Who knows if he’ll go to culinary school later. He did catering and cooking at our synagogue and for a local shelter all through HS, so he knows there are other outlets for his creativity. (Not to mention that when he goes back to school and leaves behind a fridge full of home-cooked yummies, we are more inclined to keep paying for tuition!) :D</p>
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<p>After moving son into Boston, I thought that it would be cool to live down there and asked my wife if she’d like to work. She didn’t give me an answer so I don’t know but she loves cooking. She can cook all kinds of asian cuisines and is good at french, mexican, italian and other cuisines too.</p>
<p>I later realized that her working in MA could cost us more than her potential income because of the high investment taxes in MA.</p>
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<p>She has watched a lot of cooking shows over the years. These days she watches a lot of cooking “shows” on YouTube.</p>
<p>Well, you might as well mention it, then. what could it hurt?</p>
<p>I’m going to wait until the end of the semester when our daughter’s plans are better known.</p>
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<p>You can easily flip that around to read that she should go to cooking school now, because she can go to college afterwards. Colleges aren’t going anywhere. </p>
<p>I agree that being a chef is a brutal job but it does seem to favor the young. Maybe it really would be best for her to do cooking school now, while she’s young and strong.</p>