<p>oldB (post #133) I do let the number slip, I know it’s shameless:) but I just couldn’t take the “oh, she’s an athlete that’s why she got in” comments any longer. And an SAT score is the quickest was to correct the dumb athlete slight that you get when someone says to you “oh, that’s why she got in”. When someone says that just translate it to “your kids not that smart.” because that’s what they’re saying.</p>
<p>Not shameless, show 'em your pride! People have no idea what kind of “package” these kids have to have to get into these schools!</p>
<p>Telling others about your child’s high SAT score only helps alleviate the jealousy aimed at you and your child. It’s important to emphasize their academic strengths to everyone. My daughter is being accepted to a school with very high academic standards. Would she get in without sports? Probably not. Would she easily make it in without athletics into the colleges just below ivy status? More than likely yes. But it goes beyond that for us. Her high school friends also happen to be ambitious students and want to attend ivy league colleges. No way was she going to let herself be seen as getting admitted to a highly desired university without also achieving terrific grades and scores. Peer pressure does it all.</p>
<p>I agree, Beawinner. If you live in a cutthroat, academically competitive area, then I think letting people know your athlete’s test scores (provided they’re truly great, of course) is an acceptable stategy to help protect your child from jealousy, vicious gossip and dismissive talk which will likely be directed at him or her.</p>
<p>However, just know that the truly mean people will conveniently ignore the facts and will still put down your student or otherwise twist the truth so it suits whatever their agenda is. I had a truly astounding conversation yesterday with a neighbor who simply would not accept what I told her about my D’s scholarship situation. She wanted to believe her own version of the story so she could feel victimized. You definitely learn who your friends are when your child achieves success in public way!</p>
<p>I’ve even had a counselor at her high school be “neutral” about my daughter’s success. What’s with these people anyway. I don’t get it. Her achievement might actually bring some form of acclaim to the school. Throwing up my hands in disgust.</p>
<p>Wow, that is a too bad about the counselor! We are very lucky in that respect, my daughter’s counselor has been pushing her since spring of freshman year, grooming her to be Ivy eligible academically. It is such a shame when these counselors don’t support their students. I have talked to parents who claimed their kids’ counselors were jealous of their kids achievement, so ridiculous! It makes sense that if a child was a high achiever, it would be good for the school</p>
<p>Hi All
We had great visits at all 4 schools. One in particular has become the front runner and another a VERY close second…
the two others fal further behind</p>
<p>One school was a great fit academically however the coahc tipped his hand a bit and we saw something in his personality/attitude that gives us pause…
another was a great fit academically and coaching-wsie–however the facilities aren’t nearly as nice as some other schools’, so our student will have to weigh that out a bit.</p>
<p>Did lots of walking and touring…and found some coaches very forthcoming, others say things in a more subtle way… Very interesting. Was glad to let my student get some real alone time to hang with the coaches…and I hung back…glad to let our student get a chance to naviagate some of this alone and shine as an indepndent studentnot tied to a parent’s thether!</p>
<p>sounds great! And I love the focus on the coach:) you know my rant on choosing the coach, not the school. Hopefully you’ll get to choose both the ones you want, school and coach!</p>
<p>^^ yes one of the coaches tipped his hand when he related a story about being angry with the team when they didn’t perfomr well.
Most of the time together our stuydent didn’t get to say much nor did the coach do more than tell of expectations and so on…and 90 minutes later we realized that the coach “owned” you if you went there and probably had an anger issue…</p>
<p>we did learn this coach - new to that school–has a multi year contract…</p>
<p>Another coach was great–after speaking with our student–our student related how much more confident they felt–and how encouraged they felt…
that said alot…</p>
<p>So funny—</p>
<p>a coach who had yet to respond to our student’s previous emails of introduction–perked up when he read about the new STATE title…</p>
<p>Updating:
Our student has been in continued email contact and also now face to face contact with various coaches at events.
Called a coach back–from a msge left 7/1 that was missed during a practice.</p>
<p>As of yet–no OV offered though lots of alluded to things like…we hope you will come this fall etc…or we look foreward to seeing you …One did say that the package was going to AdCom for the read in an effort to gain an OV…fingers crossed</p>
<p>Funny how they are always saying–“hey call me” …</p>
<p>Our student has not made it a habit to call the coaches–preferring to not just call for the sake of calling…
though I wonder if that time is nearing so as to show the love…</p>
<p>Does anyone have thoughts about the student-athletes calling the coaches?</p>
<p>I think you have plenty of time before your child needs to be calling constantly with “the love”. Let the coaches see her stats and the adcom evaluation. Some coaches, for some sports, just use the “hope you’ll come phrase” until late August/early Sept. when they start booking actual weekends. (That was how it worked for DD at the Ivies.)</p>
<p>When the athlete and her stats both meet the coaches’ criteria, they will be calling constantly. </p>
<p>That said, if the coach asks for calls, why not call? They may be listening for enthusiasm, maturity, and an ability to handle social/professional/team relationships.</p>
<p>fogfog - If your student is in communication with the coaches, then I wouldn’t worry too much. Communication is the life blood of this process. If communication stops then that is an issue and you need to move onto the next school on the list. </p>
<p>In my experience, I also wouldn’t put too much emphasis on OVs. Last year, most of my son’s baseball team committed to D1s with few, if any OVs. OVs are fine if they happen but they are also limiting. The rules for OVs are spelled out and don’t offer a lot of flexibility such as you can only be there 48 hours. If you are wanting the school to pay for your air transportation (West coast to East coast) that is a different matter. I know players are limited to 5 OVs. I believe there is also limits for how many OVs a school can host for a sport and an entire Atheltic Dept. I tried to find this number, but couldn’t find it. I know I read it somewhere. I’m still looking, and will post if I find it.</p>
<p>If the coach is asking you to call then I would call for an update or if there is something material to talk about. I wouldn’t call for the sake of calling as both of you are plenty busy. With that said, one of the lessons we learned is never to let up on the “gas”. Keep your student busy trying to meet new coaches and learn about new programs. In other words, keep opening new doors to see what is behind them. Last year, there were times when it slowed down for us and that allowed us an opportunity to reach out to new coaches and schools. My son wouldn’t be going where he is if we didn;t keep looking at new schools and baseball programs. One Ivy slowed down on us, and another Ivy picked up. It happens.</p>
<p>Good luck. I remember what it was like this time last year. Hang in there, there is a lot more time than you think especially if you are thinking Ivy/D3. It is only July 14. ;-)</p>
<p>An interesting twist has been the changes in coaching staff from univ to univ…
that can really muddy the waters.</p>
<p>Kiddo has gotten an email from a coach who left one school for another…
and also an email from one coach who offered an OV at a school and is now leaving that school for another school! Have no idea what that does to the OV…there is no one in the position yet–Kiddo emailed another coach for clarity and was told to keep in touch and watch for new coach announcement…</p>
<p>Another coach who had emailed kiddo saying "we think you are part fo the future of xyz’s team " etc etc
has not been in touch and we know of another kid with an OV there—so waiting to see where kiddo is on the list…</p>
<p>The good news is kiddos top choice is having kiddo for an OV in Sept–It would be great if it all came together…</p>
<p>I have a question. If I e-mailed a D1 coach and all I got back was “Great! Fill out the recruiting form. Maybe you can visit at some point in the future” (but no indication of an official), should I cross this school off my list in terms of athletic recruitment?</p>
<p>Have you already filled out the form? Unless you’ve had a little back and forth communication so that the coach feels you are a fit for the team and you have him in your top few choices, he’s not going to offer to fly you out.</p>
<p>iop - are you going to be a senior? If you you’ve started way late in the game… if you’re a junior they can’t offer an ov anyway and that is a standard response email that almost everyone gets.</p>
<p>Oh! also - do remember that they’re not going to offer you an ov after just a few emails. They need to get a sense if you’re going to fit with their team as well…</p>
<p>^^^Oh darn, that’s the email I got from an Ivy school. Emailed them back to thank them, coached emailed back something, I emailed back…then nothing. How encouraging…</p>
<p>@Frosty, why is i0p3de too late? Isn’t this the time when coaches are emailing recruits and offering spots?</p>
<p>^^
Many first round recruits already have their officals lined up—</p>
<p>Depending on level of recruitability–the scholar-athletes have been emailing with coaches for 6mos to 9 mos or so…
Some already have had pre apps considered at Adcoms…</p>
<p>It varies from sport to sport and school division etc. so fall is not necessarily too late.</p>