Upper class doesn’t make sense here. $200k in CA is different than the Midwest. It’s how many hours does someone have to work to purchase the same product.
That’s certainly not any site I’d take anything they published seriously.
Definitely click bait. And I didn’t even need to click on the link you provided to determine that.
Just another one of hundreds of stupid “the best” lists. I cannot believe anyone even takes things like these lists seriously.
Tough crowd.
Work from home - sometimes it’s because coworkers are all over the world (being at the office of limited value), and hours / calls can be at odd times.
Some companies form teams of associates in many different cities and in a variety of time zones & across several disciplines which make traditional office hours unworkable.
Bingo.
@katliamom: Thank you for your comment.
Seems like some are having a bad day today. I wished that I had posted the link earlier, but had a lot of distractions that needed immediate attention today. I did not mean to upset anyone.
Maybe because A- not everyone wants to be “rich” and B- it sounds like a clickbait title.
And the vast majority of us know that it’s not just where you live that matters - it’s your education, connections, etc.
I’m a historian. No matter where I move, unless I want to choose a completely different career, there’s no way I’m moving up to 200k any time soon. Probably not even in my lifetime. At least I can comfortably afford where I live, unlike if I moved to some of the other states listed.
???Okay.
It would probably be more interesting if they took it further and list the major industry drivers of the wealth. I can guess on many but not all.
Publisher, I think lost in your original post is an interesting question: does it make sense to pick a university based on the surrounding economy & opportunities? And if the East continues to be less attractive economically, I can see a few Ivies that might find themselves in a bit of trouble…
Okay, I could see how you might be distracted and forget to post the link. But when you were specifically asked about it, you told the poster to google it herself. That’s where I began to wonder if you were being deliberately inconsiderate.
As to the comments about making 200K in Seattle. I think it should be acknowledged that COL can make that 200K not so “rich.” It’s certainly a very nice salary, but “rich”? Housing costs are crazy out there. D1 and her Dh really enjoyed their year there, but they felt they would never be able to afford to buy a house, which was a priority for them. The house they rented was in an okay location (not the most desirable area, but ok), wasn’t in great shape, and was valued at 1.4 million. Not doable for them.
@Rivet2000: Great point. I too wish that the major employers in each was listed.
Seattle has Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks & several other major corporate headquarters. One doesn’t need to work for a Fortune 100 company in order to benefit as independent law firms, accounting firms, consulting firms, suppliers, distributors, etc. all benefit from the success of the major corporations.
The reason that I shared this information on College Confidential was so many readers could assess college and grad school opportunities in these economically booming areas.
@Nrdsb4 : No, I was not trying to be inconsiderate. For some reason, it was unusually difficult for me to log back in on this website (CC) after leaving to check email. Frustrating day for one who is not very adept at dealing with technology or with technological glitches.
Sorry if I gave the impression that you felt.
P.S. In fact, the email account refused to open up stating that unusual activity had been detected on the account & that I should confirm that it was me & that I should create a new password.
Thank you for your patience !
I’m the child of immigrants. The idea of picking a college so you can get a job in that city and never have to move- ever- strikes me as so far from my family’s experience that it seems crazy.
People move all the time. They leave Silicon Valley for a great job in Dayton Ohio, they leave Seattle for Washington DC or Richmond, Virginia, they leave Chicago for Portland Maine or the other Portland.
I cannot imagine choosing a college and its environs because at the age of 17 you’ve decided it’s the right place for you to “get rich”. And the attitude that this discussion seems to suggest- that once you’re living somewhere you’re stuck, and if you can’t strike it rich there too bad- seems crazy to me. Jeff and McKenzie Bezos did their famous cross country drive where they hatched the idea of Amazon- during a move cross country. That seems like a healthier way to evaluate opportunities-- pick up and move.
I am old enough to remember when Pittsburgh was left for dead. And now happy learn about the “new millionaires” being created through its transition from steel to robotics and bio-engineering. I am old enough to have watched brownstones on the upper west side of NY sell at auction for $15K, and now watch those buildings sell AGAIN for several millions.
I speak with young people all the time who have “failed to launch” for whatever reason. Most of these are college grads-- the typical living on mom’s couch, or living with 5 roommates in a 2 bedroom apartment and they all have gig economy type jobs or are pursuing their passion.
There is a direct line between “failed to launch” and an unwillingness to move. Kids living in SF who get solid job offers in Minneapolis-- but “how can I leave my friends?” Kids living in DC who get fantastic offers in Springfield IL (yes, there are political jobs in all 50 states. There are great policy jobs in all 50 states, and jobs for campaign strategists and pollsters and communications advisers-- all over the country) and they can’t imagine not being “close to the action”.
Sure- live where you want. But when the clock starts ticking and you are 27 or 28 and still living the life of a 22 year old going from gig to gig when you could be well established professionally-- that’s on you.
I recently spoke with a nice young man in Dallas who has turned down several opportunities because “it’s just so cosmopolitan here and I can’t imagine living anywhere else”. I had to stifle my laughs. I happen to love Dallas and have spent a lot of time there-- but half the population of NJ or MA or Oregon or California would fall over laughing at the idea of Texas being cosmopolitan.
Kids- get up and move. And you may end up doing it a couple of times and that’s ok. There is no guarantee that the right first job for you is going to be down the street from the college campus you love- and that’s ok too.
Yes. Twice in fact (see below). I find it disingenuous to claim distractions when you make the two posts below and then also post wondering why you aren’t getting more views on your post. ![]()
Many young folks are expected to move from job to job, which is different from my experience decades ago. They can get promotions and raises with each job switch, if properly positioned.
My H was a civil servant and worked for decades at a modest salary when he could have earned a much higher wage in the private sector. Upon retirement, having a comfortable pension and subsidized medical care for our lives is a nice retirement benefit. It’s not directly counted as income but definitely makes a difference.
Haven’t read the whole thread yet, but where are these figures coming from in the OP? Is there an article somewhere that isn’t linked?
“Will this make a difference in where one should consider attending college ?” was the question posed in the first response in this thread.
The point is that if great jobs are plentiful in Washington or Oregon or Utah or Colorado or Idaho or Georgia or California doesn’t it make sense to attend the University of Washington, Georgia Tech, San Jose State, etc. if that gives students access to internships and lucrative job opportunities.
It is not necessary to attend an Ivy League school or a top 10 LAC in order to have exceptional career opportunities.
Some posters argue that one should just pick up & move to where the good jobs are.
Of course, that is both reality and a use of commonsense.
So why not study where good jobs and great careers are plentiful ?