The Harvard Waitlist Waiting Room 2014 Thread

<p>okay, last update of the day;</p>

<p>Welcome! I’m putting college of matriculation in brackets. Please state your own and I’ll add it!</p>

<p>If your name is in bold PLEASE come out and say hi so we can confirm that you are remaining on the waitlist! Thanks! More people should come out and join us! </p>

<p>145 people so far; 124 for sure–21 unknown
5 Probably Accepted; 74 in Limbo (not including 21 unknown); 45 Rejected;
Of the 74 in limbo, 28 are confirmed and 46 are possibly still waiting
3 Probable ■■■■■■. Posts: [1188, 1189, 1439 (in the waitlist success thread)]</p>

<p>accepted (5):
*Collegeahh28 [MIT] * the debated one (I believe him!)
*Hoomaikai [U. Chicago]<a href=“International”>/I</a><br>
Sdedalus [Columbia]
*Soophie [Princeton]<a href=“International”>/I</a>
*Joedirt131 [M.I.T.] *</p>

<p>denied (45):
Acedyou92 [U. Penn] …denied…
Ancalagon4554 [Vanderbilt] …denied…
Astrophy918 (NY) …denied…
Back2ca [Stanford] …denied…
Boggler [TX] math, science, music [U. Penn] …denied…
Cali4me [U.C. Berkeley] …denied…
Chichibi (SoCal) [UCLA] …denied…
Cicero_oratore (MA) physics/math [JHU] …denied…
Collegebound34 [U. Penn] …denied…
DreamHigh91 …denied…
Enoughalready [Northwestern] …denied…
Fuzzyfirebunny [Yale] …denied…
Gcall1090 ¶ [William and Mary] …denied…
Geoindy [U. Penn] …denied…
Guitar01 (FL) [Columbia] …denied…
GuitarPlayer6516 [Emory] …denied…
Gunther6456 (NJ) english [WashU] …denied…
Handlebars (SoCal) [U.C. Berkeley] …denied…
Harvard1983 [Boston College] …denied…
Harvardwaitlist international asian male …denied…
Hillsongfan [Yale] …denied…
Hobofishead (TX) [WashU] …denied…
Icelands0 [Columbia] …denied…
Iluv11alot (MD) also on Princeton’s W.L. (UMD) …denied…
ItchyTorso (Switzerland) …denied…
Lincoln12 daughter going to [NYU] w/$$ …denied…
Maxgoettler (Germany) [Oxford] …denied…
Meowmix0669 [Dartmouth] …denied…
Mikezy (Australia) [U. Melbourne] …denied…
Msauce [Yale] …denied…
Pappa1 (NYC Suburbs) [JHU] …denied…
Plumazul hispanic, piano, premed [UMD] …denied…
Pooooh intl., needs F.A. [gap yr/ community col.] …denied…
Reach4thestars45 [Princeton] …denied…
Rubin95 [Dartmouth] …denied…
Semeia [Boston College] …denied…
Senioryralready? …denied…
SeriasB (Florida) [Yale] …denied…
Simplywaiting (GA) [Emory] …denied…
Tibet000000 [Dartmouth] …denied…
Verbosely [Columbia] …denied…
Vicariousparent [Yale] …denied…
Vikroz (MI) cello, science [Hillsdale College] …denied…
Wildcat343 [Duke] …denied…
Ynd1234 [Harvey Mudd] …denied…</p>

<p>Confirmed still waiting (28):
Bell9079 [U. Penn]
Camomwhere2go [UCSD]
Carolightning [Northwestern]
Courteau91 [Williams]
Dan92 [Yale]
DoleWhip [Upenn, Wharton]
Dx1992 [Emory]
Fenwaylover [Duke]
Floridahopeful [Princeton]
Hhopeful2 [U. Penn]
HurtLocker (So. Cal) well-rounded, psych, history
Impossibleisfun (MA)
Jdog34 (NY) [Georgetown]
JenRocket
Neapolitan
Nickwasy (MI) math/physics [U. Michigan]
Noaflora (NY) [U. Penn]
NYPrepster [Georgetown]
Passiongirl [Wellesley]
Pretzellogic [Williams]
Qizixite (Northeast) mathy subject [U. Chicago]
RedlinetoHarvard [Dartmouth]
Robs561
Sanguinity [Middlebury]
Soccerspaz1245 [Yale]
Stressed23 [Northwestern]
Turgond
Whatpencil [Cornell]</p>

<p>A mixture of unconfirmed extended waitlist OR rejection (46):
1337pi [JHU]
141113
AliceMunro [U. Penn]
Beefinbj (US citizen abroad) trilingual [Mcgill]
CalPeg [U.C. Berkeley]
Carolyssme [Dartmouth]
Clamzoni<em>of</em>RI Well-rounded, Biochem. Tenor Voice
Code h – probably will stick with his other college
Daffodils
Derivate [Cambridge or Princeton] {Pton for tally}
Douglasc66 [Vanderbilt]
Dsalazar6608 [Upenn, Wharton]
Dukeatreides (Northeast) [U. Chicago]
Fluffysheep (IN) well-rounded, science [Dartmouth]
Fraudulence
Goodenough (CA) [Princeton]
Goodluck1 [Yale]
Goyankees1219 ¶ history
Harvardalummom [Notre Dame]
Harvardwannabe4 (TX)
Jaylay [JHU]
JBK151 [Stanford]
Jihyuni09
Jlederluis [Caltech]
Journeverte (Texas)
KRNpro (WA) well-rounded, humanities [Cornell CAS]
Lawyer101
Macarenaps (Peru) well rounded
MorganSimone (NJ) [Princeton]
Mrbopalop1 (WI)
Nathanct (Connecticut) [U. Conn]
Navanna [U. Penn]
Orkinman [Caltech med. Scholar to USCD med. School]
Otsuns [U.C. Berkeley]
Quince
Raving (SC) [Princeton]
Serendipityyy [Yale]
Soi56starz [Cornell]
SouthKP
Tharp993 (Western NY) [Stanford]
Titan10 – interested in engineering [Notre Dame]
Tracyxxx [U. Chicago]
U59slf [Amherst]
Wanderer101
Wick123 [Notre Dame]
Zachboy</p>

<p>Unknown (assumed to not be a part of the data set) (21):
2014ss
999999
**Ayeeeconnie **
Az1506
BigBalla
Blissfulting
Dee1000
Djokovik
FightTheTide11
ForHarvard
grouptheory
HongLong86
Idiosyncra3y
KWWBoarder
NCDanceMom
Rtgrove123
Scull
Status123
**TheYankInLondon **
Tony1337
xxLAJxx</p>

<p>Colleges Attending (94 responses / 124 active waitlistees):
1 Amherst
2 Boston College
2 Caltech
4 Columbia
3 Cornell
6 Dartmouth
2 Duke
3 Emory
2 Georgetown
1 Harvey Mudd
1 Hillsdale College
4 JHU
1 Mcgill
1 Middlebury
2 MIT
3 Northwestern
3 Notre Dame
1 NYU
1 Oxford
11 Penn
6 Princeton
3 Stanford
4 U.C. Berkeley
1 U.C.S.D
1 U.C.L.A.
4 U. Chicago
1 U. Conn
1 U. Melbourne
1 U. Michigan
2 UMD
2 Vanderbilt
2 Wash U
1 Wellesley
1 William and Mary
2 Williams
9 Yale</p>

<p>I haven’t received anything from Harvard yet but as of now, I’m going to Yale</p>

<p>I don’t know if this means much, but I went back and looked at the results only for those who signed on to the thread before they learned their fate in round 1. Presumably, those admitted would have been much more likely to join the thread after learning their outcomes than those extended, who, in turn, would have been much much more likely to join at that point than those rejected. So, to eliminate the resulting bias in favor of admissions, a tally of the results for all “pre-notification joiners” may be the best indicator of outcomes in round 1 for the waitlisted pool overall. Focusing on the 100+ names on quizixite’s summary as of May 18th just before results started coming in, a little under 40% were rejected, a little more than 40% have not reported an outcome, and about 20% were extended. Strictly speaking, no one actually on the list was admitted, although 2 people (SDedalus and joedirt131) did come onto the thread before they knew their results. Now, assuming the vast majority of those in the “not reported” pool were rejected and the remainder were extended, it would be a reasonable guess to estimate that in round 1, 70-75% were rejected, 20-25% were extended, and under 5% (say 3% or so) were accepted. Reports on this thread have put the round 1 acceptance number at anywhere from 12 to 54 to 65. At 12 (and assuming an acceptance rate of 3%), the implied original accepted waitlist number would be 360 (probably too low), at 54 it would be 1600+ (too high?), and at 65, it would be close to 2000 (probably too high). Unfortunately, the calculations are highly volatile, since at a 5% acceptance rate (presumably within the margin of error – although I didn’t attempt the statistical calculation) the implied waitlist numbers range from 240 to 1100 to 1300. Just a wild guess, but I have a feeling the 54 acceptance number is most accurate (actually just because that makes the most sense given a review of last year’s thread and seems like a pretty logical way for the Committee to approach the process), which would mean that the original waitlist estimates are somewhat on the low side. If so, there would be approximately 200-250 remaining for about 20 slots, although the number could reasonably be as low as 80-100. Who knows, but based on this analysis, the chances for anyone still standing would appear to be in the vicinity of 10% or so. Please feel free to correct my logic/math – I’m a little tired right now, so probably made many mistakes, but thought I’d throw this out there anyway.</p>

<p>i was thinking…
for internationals who got rejected on wednesday - does that mean Harvard knew they didn’t need any more from their country as early as May 1? It wouldn’t make sense for them to straight out reject other waitlisters just in case the WL yield isn’t 100% right?</p>

<p>Seems weird because 5 Aussies were accepted in Aus Apr 1, and only 2 responded by May 1 (a yield of 40%). The waitlist had 5 people on it. Harvard has historically taken 6-7 Aussies every year. Did they only want 2 this year?</p>

<p>Any ideas?</p>

<p>Harvard Amissions’ Update says “a few” have been admitted off the waitlist–not “most”, not “many”, not even “some.” The five or six admitteds we read about are consistent with a LOW numberr of admittees.</p>

<p>StMoore–If 54 people were already admitted I think several CCers would have been in that group–that we have seen none off the original 106 WL on CC reflects that only a few have been admitted off the WL so far. I DO agree w/ your estimated 10% chance for remaining CCers–although if Harvard radically culled “the herd”, CCers could have chances as high as 25%.</p>

<p>All of you are this deep into the game, so the passage of time has probably improved your record (new awards, grades, recs, etc.).</p>

<p>My observation is that althouggh Havard stated this is not a ranked or prioritized WL, what criteria did they use to determine who got admitted, who made the cut to extended WL? Doesn’t that look and feel like a ranked list?</p>

<p>I forgot to mention: the “few” admiittees seem to be International students–they will need the advance lead time to obtin Visas, make travel arrangements, financing, etc. Be patient folks–we will see people coming off this extended WL getting into Harvard.</p>

<p>Congratualtions to those of you that got in and good luck to those that didn’t. I call the admissions offie yesterday for my daughter and they told me she could apply to transer next year since they had begun accepting transfers again. So, at this point I am sure she will reapply next year. Just a little hope in case you wanted to try again. Thw office is so polite and helpful and they really don’t have to be, I appreciated that from them.</p>

<p>@HurtLocker: Thanks for explaining and for the optimism, but I don’t think that’s what they meant. Ahhh, calling P in half an hour. </p>

<p>I hope lots of you extended WL(ees?) get in!</p>

<p>My son was rejected, but is happy with his choice of ND.</p>

<p>As an active Harvard alum, who’s also done some college admissions work for another college and multiple college visits with my kids over the last few years, I can tell you that, accepted at Harvard or not, all your college choices are awesome. Getting into the better schools these days is not just hard, but it’s very subjective within a range of similar kids who gets accepted and who doesn’t.</p>

<p>Also kudos to all (or most) of you (especially qizixite) for the quality and tone of this thread. You kept it fair, friendly, and funny and had lengthy intellectual discussions! So whatever happens to all of you, best of luck - you really will do well, simply because you care about doing well!</p>

<p>simplywaiting, don’t you kind of hope that your daughter just falls in love with the school that she is going to instead of spending another whole year waiting to get into Harvard? I would hate to think of my daughter lying in a dorm room bed in Evanston, IL counting off days until she might have the slim opportunity of getting into Harvard…again. In that they completely stopped taking transfer students for a while, I can’t imagine that the number will be very high.</p>

<p>Iluv11alot, good luck with it all! I’m dying to find out what Princeton said (I hope it was GREAT news!). I have Orthodox relatives, so I’m very familiar with the “ignore the phone” thing, but the timing couldn’t have been worse for Shavuot.</p>

<p>My daughter was rather unsentimental as she took off for her last day of high school today. Since she is my last, I felt kind of blubbery. </p>

<p>Good luck to you all!</p>

<p>Thanks parents for your kind words. I have a question; I wasn’t planning on taking a gap year, so if I am z-listed (thinking optimistically) where do I look to find something to do next year?</p>

<p>STMoore, great idea! I’ll look back at the people who joined before decisions came out and see if anything else pops out.</p>

<p>Welcome! I’m putting college of matriculation in brackets. Please state your own and I’ll add it!</p>

<p>If your name is in bold PLEASE come out and say hi so we can confirm that you are remaining on the waitlist! Thanks! More people should come out and join us! </p>

<p>146 people so far; 125 for sure–21 unknown
5 Probably Accepted; 74 in Limbo (not including 21 unknown); 46 Rejected;
Of the 74 in limbo, 29 are confirmed and 45 are possibly still waiting
3 Probable ■■■■■■. Posts: [1188, 1189, 1439 (in the waitlist success thread)]</p>

<p>accepted (5):
*Collegeahh28 [MIT] * the debated one (I believe him!)
*Hoomaikai [U. Chicago]<a href=“International”>/I</a><br>
Sdedalus [Columbia]
*Soophie [Princeton]<a href=“International”>/I</a>
*Joedirt131 [M.I.T.] *</p>

<p>denied (46):
Acedyou92 [U. Penn] …denied…
Ancalagon4554 [Vanderbilt] …denied…
Astrophy918 (NY) …denied…
Back2ca [Stanford] …denied…
Boggler [TX] math, science, music [U. Penn] …denied…
Cali4me [U.C. Berkeley] …denied…
Chichibi (SoCal) [UCLA] …denied…
Cicero_oratore (MA) physics/math [JHU] …denied…
Collegebound34 [U. Penn] …denied…
DreamHigh91 …denied…
Enoughalready [Northwestern] …denied…
Fuzzyfirebunny [Yale] …denied…
Gcall1090 ¶ [William and Mary] …denied…
Geoindy [U. Penn] …denied…
Guitar01 (FL) [Columbia] …denied…
GuitarPlayer6516 [Emory] …denied…
Gunther6456 (NJ) english [WashU] …denied…
Handlebars (SoCal) [U.C. Berkeley] …denied…
Harvard1983 [Boston College] …denied…
Harvardalummom [Notre Dame] …denied…
Harvardwaitlist international asian male …denied…
Hillsongfan [Yale] …denied…
Hobofishead (TX) [WashU] …denied…
Icelands0 [Columbia] …denied…
Iluv11alot (MD) also on Princeton’s W.L. (UMD) …denied…
ItchyTorso (Switzerland) …denied…
Lincoln12 daughter going to [NYU] w/$$ …denied…
Maxgoettler (Germany) [Oxford] …denied…
Meowmix0669 [Dartmouth] …denied…
Mikezy (Australia) [U. Melbourne] …denied…
Msauce [Yale] …denied…
Pappa1 (NYC Suburbs) [JHU] …denied…
Plumazul hispanic, piano, premed [UMD] …denied…
Pooooh intl., needs F.A. [gap yr/ community col.] …denied…
Reach4thestars45 [Princeton] …denied…
Rubin95 [Dartmouth] …denied…
Semeia [Boston College] …denied…
Senioryralready? …denied…
SeriasB (Florida) [Yale] …denied…
Simplywaiting (GA) [Emory] …denied…
Tibet000000 [Dartmouth] …denied…
Verbosely [Columbia] …denied…
Vicariousparent [Yale] …denied…
Vikroz (MI) cello, science [Hillsdale College] …denied…
Wildcat343 [Duke] …denied…
Ynd1234 [Harvey Mudd] …denied…</p>

<p>Confirmed still waiting (29):
Bell9079 [U. Penn]
Camomwhere2go [UCSD]
Carolightning [Northwestern]
Courteau91 [Williams]
Dan92 [Yale]
DoleWhip [Upenn, Wharton]
Dx1992 [Emory]
Fenwaylover [Duke]
Floridahopeful [Princeton]
Hhopeful2 [U. Penn]
HurtLocker (So. Cal) well-rounded, psych, history
Impossibleisfun (MA)
Jdog34 (NY) [Georgetown]
JenRocket
Neapolitan
Nickwasy (MI) math/physics [U. Michigan]
Noaflora (NY) [U. Penn]
NYPrepster [Georgetown]
Passiongirl [Wellesley]
Pretzellogic [Williams]
Qizixite (Northeast) mathy subject [U. Chicago]
RedlinetoHarvard [Dartmouth]
Robs561
Sanguinity [Middlebury]
Soccerspaz1245 [Yale]
Stressed23 [Northwestern]
Turgond
Whatpencil [Cornell]
Withallmyhearttx [Yale]</p>

<p>A mixture of unconfirmed extended waitlist OR rejection (45):
1337pi [JHU]
141113
AliceMunro [U. Penn]
Beefinbj (US citizen abroad) trilingual [Mcgill]
CalPeg [U.C. Berkeley]
Carolyssme [Dartmouth]
Clamzoni<em>of</em>RI Well-rounded, Biochem. Tenor Voice
Code h – probably will stick with his other college
Daffodils
Derivate [Cambridge or Princeton] {Pton for tally}
Douglasc66 [Vanderbilt]
Dsalazar6608 [Upenn, Wharton]
Dukeatreides (Northeast) [U. Chicago]
Fluffysheep (IN) well-rounded, science [Dartmouth]
Fraudulence
Goodenough (CA) [Princeton]
Goodluck1 [Yale]
Goyankees1219 ¶ history
Harvardwannabe4 (TX)
Jaylay [JHU]
JBK151 [Stanford]
Jihyuni09
Jlederluis [Caltech]
Journeverte (Texas)
KRNpro (WA) well-rounded, humanities [Cornell CAS]
Lawyer101
Macarenaps (Peru) well rounded
MorganSimone (NJ) [Princeton]
Mrbopalop1 (WI)
Nathanct (Connecticut) [U. Conn]
Navanna [U. Penn]
Orkinman [Caltech med. Scholar to USCD med. School]
Otsuns [U.C. Berkeley]
Quince
Raving (SC) [Princeton]
Serendipityyy [Yale]
Soi56starz [Cornell]
SouthKP
Tharp993 (Western NY) [Stanford]
Titan10 – interested in engineering [Notre Dame]
Tracyxxx [U. Chicago]
U59slf [Amherst]
Wanderer101
Wick123 [Notre Dame]
Zachboy</p>

<p>Unknown (assumed to not be a part of the data set) (21):
2014ss
999999
**Ayeeeconnie **
Az1506
BigBalla
Blissfulting
Dee1000
Djokovik
FightTheTide11
ForHarvard
grouptheory
HongLong86
Idiosyncra3y
KWWBoarder
NCDanceMom
Rtgrove123
Scull
Status123
**TheYankInLondon **
Tony1337
xxLAJxx</p>

<p>Colleges Attending (95 responses / 125 active waitlistees):
1 Amherst
2 Boston College
2 Caltech
4 Columbia
3 Cornell
6 Dartmouth
2 Duke
3 Emory
2 Georgetown
1 Harvey Mudd
1 Hillsdale College
4 JHU
1 Mcgill
1 Middlebury
2 MIT
3 Northwestern
3 Notre Dame
1 NYU
1 Oxford
11 Penn
6 Princeton
3 Stanford
4 U.C. Berkeley
1 U.C.S.D
1 U.C.L.A.
4 U. Chicago
1 U. Conn
1 U. Melbourne
1 U. Michigan
2 UMD
2 Vanderbilt
2 Wash U
1 Wellesley
1 William and Mary
2 Williams
10 Yale</p>

<p>Neapolitan, Great point on “a few”. Also, I agree that 20-25% is the upper end of the range. I think it’s clear that a large percentage of the herd WAS, in fact, culled, as you put it; the only questions are how big the herd was in the first place and what was the corresponding percentage admitted. If qizixlite’s original estimate of 700-800 for the herd is in the ballpark, there are only at most a couple of hundred extendees out there. It’s also interesting that 2 off a waitlist subset of 108 (somewhat conservatively counting sdedalus and joedirt131 in both the numerator and denominator) at a waitlist size of 750 is roughly consistent with an admitted number of 12. Also, it’s possible that the Committee’s approach this year would be different than last year’s (i.e. some additional delay) given the much smaller number of places available. I don’t know, though – feels like some wishful thinking, especially given some of the credible reports that the first wave of admittees would be largest.</p>

<p>My original estimate was 675-761. I think I agree that their only at most a couple hundred extended waitlistees</p>

<p>If anyone wants to call them and see if they can confirm any of the numbers we have been floating about or even ask for a general ballpark number… I might call today, but I have an allergic reaction to awkward phone conversations.</p>

<p>qizixite, for your z-list gap year plan, you could manage the various calculations for cc threads. you have a talent, and I’m sure it would be greatly appreciated!</p>

<p>STmoore, we should team up and analyze college data for CC! Sigh, I really don’t want to take a gap year.</p>

<p>Beware, there are a lot of commas in the following statement:</p>

<p>In terms of the number of acceptances, as I mentioned a bunch of posts back, if Harvard was choosing 30 people out of the 700 waitlistees on a random basis, there is a roughly 15% chance (1/7) that each person chosen is a part of this thread’s subset. So the expected number of people chosen from our group is 4.5</p>

<p>But if Harvard was choosing 40 people… One second, I’m making a table…</p>

<p>Okay. The first column is the number of people accepted off of Harvard’s waitlist in the first wave. The last column is the expected number of people who were accepted AND who are on this thread.</p>

<p>5 108 708 0.15 0.76
10 108 708 0.15 1.53
15 108 708 0.15 2.29
20 108 708 0.15 3.05
25 108 708 0.15 3.81
30 108 708 0.15 4.58
35 108 708 0.15 5.34
40 108 708 0.15 6.1
45 108 708 0.15 6.86
50 108 708 0.15 7.63
55 108 708 0.15 8.39
60 108 708 0.15 9.15
65 108 708 0.15 9.92
70 108 708 0.15 10.68 </p>

<p>As can be seen, 2-6 acceptances on this thread implies 15-40 acceptances by Harvard. So, the number of acceptances is entirely pointless to try and estimate.</p>

<p>I should add that this assumes an unchanging size of the waitlist no matter how many people are accepted.</p>

<p>One last thought: the other big problem with analyzing outcomes off the cc pool, of course, is the self-selection bias inherent in using cc waitlisters as representative of the larger waitlist pool. CCers, as a group, for example, may well be underweighted in some favored admissions categories. If so – and if the 1st round targeted those categories (for example, URMs or a subgroup thereof) – then the admissions percentage from this thread may be meaningfully lower than the actual percentage admitted. And, again, the volatility of that admissions percentage statistic is a problem. If, say, 7-8% of the original waitlistees were admitted instead of 2-3%, that fact would be consistent (at an estimated pool number of 700) with the report of 54 admitted in the first round. And if that’s the case, we’re talking 200 candidates for about 20 remaining places. My gut keeps taking me back to that 10% chance remaining (which is about the same as it was before the first round).</p>

<p>i thought AP Stats was over… :(</p>

<p>haha i appreciate the numbers though!</p>

<p>STmoore, good point! But I am pretty sure that we have a large enough sample size to negate most selection biases. Here is the same inaccurate table for rejections: </p>

<p>The first column is the number of people rejected from Harvard’s waitlist in the first wave. The last column is the expected number of people who were rejected AND who are on this thread (I ignore the changing size of the waitlist as people are rejected).</p>

<p>200 108 708 0.15 30.51
220 108 708 0.15 33.56
240 108 708 0.15 36.61
260 108 708 0.15 39.66
280 108 708 0.15 42.71
300 108 708 0.15 45.76
320 108 708 0.15 48.81
340 108 708 0.15 51.86
360 108 708 0.15 54.92
380 108 708 0.15 57.97
400 108 708 0.15 61.02
420 108 708 0.15 64.07
440 108 708 0.15 67.12
460 108 708 0.15 70.17
480 108 708 0.15 73.22
500 108 708 0.15 76.27
520 108 708 0.15 79.32
540 108 708 0.15 82.37
560 108 708 0.15 85.42
580 108 708 0.15 88.47
600 108 708 0.15 91.53</p>

<p>In post #1300, the numbers were: 4 accepted, 46 rejected, 23 in limbo, 109 overall
I think around four-fifths of the people who have not responded have been rejected. So… 4 accepted, 75 rejected, 30 in limbo
So, 440-540 have been rejected which implies that the waitlist is now 168-268 people (assuming an original waitlist of 708). BUT, no approximation of acceptances is worthwhile. </p>

<p>I think around 20% of the 200 people on the waitlist will be accepted; so 40/200. Good luck!</p>