The investment..speculation, out right gambling thread

<p>You, perhaps??? Is this a hint?</p>

<p>Ellemenope…yeah…I like what the builder of tiny homes is doing…</p>

<p>“You, perhaps??? Is this a hint?”</p>

<p>Lol…no…</p>

<p>But I am not kidding…the person is very bright too…
I’m not really going to take notes though.</p>

<p>I see that Jeremy Siegel is saying that the euro will have to be devalued to save the EU. I wonder how this will impact his uber positive market prediction of Dow 17000 by 2013.</p>

<p>Also an interesting article on cnbc entitled “Stocks trim losses yet again: is the morning amateur hour?”</p>

<p>Qdogpa…no trophy…sorry.</p>

<p>Thats ok,lol…it looked like Mr Market wanted to finish flat to up,but. Am happy as my short positions tacked on a bit ,though not as much as it had earlier…tommorrow is another day…</p>

<p>12,000 before 13,500</p>

<p>I’m one of those amateurs talked about in the article above. I bought in the morning (expecting a move up) and sold in the afternoon.</p>

<p>Finally…maybe…shareholders are waking up to the issue of excessive executive pay…</p>

<p>Pay up 108 percent over 10 years…shareholder value rises…8 percent…equals…ridiculous.</p>

<p>[News</a> Headlines](<a href=“http://www.cnbc.com/id/47350215]News”>http://www.cnbc.com/id/47350215)</p>

<p>"“Executive pay has become a racket, where the bosses of quoted companies constantly award themselves more and more money, while the shareholders see little increase in the value of their stock,” he said.</p>

<p>“If you look at the whole decade from 2000-2010, the pay of the chief executives of the 350 largest quoted companies went up by 108 percent, according to a recent study by the consultants IDS. And the value of those companies over the same period? It went up by just 8 percent,” said Lynn, who says the comparison generally gets worse as the companies get bigger.</p>

<p>“Much the same is true in most countries. The returns to being a CEO have soared, while the returns to being a shareholder have stagnated. In real terms, they have actually got poorer,” he said. “That is hardly fair on the people who actually own these businesses.”</p>

<p>Cisco’s weak outlook won’t help the open tomorrow.</p>

<p>May be another opportunity to buy the low at the open and sell during the day.</p>

<p>What is the reason for “sell in May and go away” phrase? Is it because people stop putting money in their IRA’s or some other reason?</p>

<p>We got close to the 1340 support level (1343) and bounced off.</p>

<p>Maybe it is because the financial people like to go on vacation during the summer?</p>

<p>I’ve been thinking about going long on Nokia,and I was surprised to see a post here that quoted an analyst panel predicting it will go to zero. I don’t think this is possible. It has a strong worldwide presence and it dominates the growth in dumb phones. Now with its partnership with MSFT, the Lumia is getting race reviews. My son, who has an iPhone, was planning to go Android but is now giving the Lumia a serious look. Admittedly, one of the reasons is he has a Zune and ZunePass,which is all you can eat music for a monthly subscription, so in his case, it would mean only one device to carry around. I was thinking of buying Nok because it’s beaten down, has a strong base in dumb phones, its partnership with MSFT, which is footing the bill for most of the software development, and the fact that the carriers love the idea of a smartphone alternative to Android/Apple. Plus my wife is part Finn. </p>

<p>I’m also thinking of Amazon as a long term hedge against my Apple stock. (I congratulate myself on buying Apple 10 years ago, and kick myself for not buying enough to be living in Provence.) I like that Bezos doesn’t care about short term gain but will plough in the dough to dominate markets. My grandchildren will thank me–I think.</p>

<p>Latichever…you have been Aapl for 10 years…</p>

<p>Very nice.</p>

<p>Somebody will come up with a platform to take on Apple’s Itune business… And i don’t think it will be Msft…</p>

<p>I just read the whole thread and wow this is the most exciting thing ever (fortunately or unfortunately) because Qdogpa’s song about 12000 before 13500 is like being at the races! Oh you guys you guys (and gals). My sweet daddy who died this past autumn could understand all your gobbledy goop (it’s just background noise to me I only know from buy low sell high and that has been a tough enough poker game for me!). Anyways, we had to liquidate his IB trading account since we didn’t understand any of it (and at least I know not to play a game I can’t understand so that’s something). Dstark you asked about IB and it is a good thing. Low cost trades. We have some Merrill money and they are telling us 2 percent per trade HOLY WHAT? And they want us to keep our money there? </p>

<p>Anyway. I lerve the kids on CNBC. Though to me the whole discussion is sort of like free floating anxiety (metaphorically) where you see something happen in your emotional field (financial world) and then look around for something to attach it to. Oh the markets tanked that must be because of the French election. Okey dokey, sure.</p>

<p>Buy low sell high. </p>

<p>Who’s the rich guy who replied when asked how he made his $$ , “I sold too soon.” JP Getty? Knowing when to sell is the trick for me. </p>

<p>Amusing thread. </p>

<p>Now the song in my head is 12000 before 13500.</p>

<p>2 percent per trade…that sounds like an ipo trade…</p>

<p>Or a penny stock trade…</p>

<p>Otherwise…highway robbery.</p>

<p>The market will replicate yesterday, down hard ,then recoup yesterday…up strong today, and finish higher,but not at highs…</p>

<p>12,000 before 13,500</p>