The Ivy Plus Society

<p>MEMBER SCHOOLS
Air Force Academy
Amherst College
Berkeley (University of California)
Brown University
Caltech
Columbia University
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Duke University
Georgetown University
Harvard University
Johns Hopkins University
MIT
Naval Academy
Northwestern University
Williams College
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of Chicago
University of Pennsylvania
University of Virginia
Washington University in St. Louis
West Point
Yale University</p>

<p>INTERNATIONAL
Cambridge
IMD
INSEAD
London Business School
London School of Economics</p>

<p>GRADUATE SCHOOLS
<strong>Graduate programs at the universities listed above as well as the following:</strong>
Business School:
Stern – NYU
Ross - University of Michigan
Law School:
NYU Law
University of Michigan School of Law</p>

<p>Medical School:
UCLA School of Medicine
UCSF School of Medicine
University of Michigan School of Medicine
Washington University in St. Louis School of Medicine</p>

<p>Thoughts?</p>

<p>I’m just wondering how they come up with those list of schools.</p>

<p>Haven’t there already been threads about this? BTW, you don’t have to be an alumni from the listed schools to attend a TIPS event.</p>

<p>They’re just a group of people getting together and mingling. I get the feeling it’s more of a singles thing.</p>

<p>Obviously, these are the most prestigious schools in America whose brand name is highly recognized globally.</p>

<p>No Notre Dame, Washington U, Emory and Vanderbilt. </p>

<p>Rice deserves to be in the list, though.</p>

<p>^ WUSTL IS in the list.</p>

<p>Sounds like Mensa: “Im really smart, but don’t have much to show for it! Hence, I pretend I’m better than than millionaires who attended Texas Tech by joining juvenile and arbitrary “networking” clubs.” </p>

<p>The truely elite have no need to advertise.</p>

<p>I’m sad WashingtonU is in the list. :D</p>

<p>“Haven’t there already been threads about this?”</p>

<p>At least a few times a year Usually started by an alum of one the member schools…</p>

<p>Cornell is not Ivy Plus. :-)</p>

<p>HEY! No Swarthmore ? If you’re adding Williams and Amherst surely Swarthmore deserves to be up there too :)</p>

<p>UVa but not Michigan, UCLA or UNC? Georgetown and WUSTL but no Emory, Notre Dame, Rice or Vanderbilt? This list is obviously a personal networking group, not a rating of top universities.</p>

<p>it could be more about northeast prestige than a rating. Emory, Rice and Vanderbilt are in the south and very much regional schools. They dont have the type of recruitment that Gtown or even Wustl have. Also UVa is really a better undergrad than Mich, UCLA, and Chapel Hill to be sincere</p>

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<p>Thoughts? My thoughts are: What’s the point? How have I been enlightened in any way, shape or form by any list that is just one more rehash of the seemingly endless lists that came before it? This one is no different than the others, it overstates the obvious while omitting just enough of the “usual suspects” to insure that we’ll have the predictably tiresome “mine is bigger than yours” arguments that seem to make up too much of the CC Forums. None of it is important unless you’ve been accepted to one of them but still need a publicized ego boost. </p>

<p>Parse and reshuffle all you like, but as my father once told me, no matter how thin you slice it, it’s still bologna.</p>

<p>"Also UVa is really a better undergrad than Mich, UCLA, and Chapel Hill to be sincere "</p>

<p>Sefago, how? Because UVa is smaller than the other three schools? Research-wise, the latter three are much stronger.</p>

<p>“Also UVa is really a better undergrad than Mich, UCLA, and Chapel Hill to be sincere”</p>

<p>Not quite Sefago. Those four publics are practically identical in quality and reputation.</p>

<p>“Emory, Rice and Vanderbilt are in the south and very much regional schools. They dont have the type of recruitment that Gtown or even Wustl have.”</p>

<p>I am not sure I agree about WUSTL being more national than Emory, Rice or Vanderbilt…or that recruitment at WUSTL is any better than in the latter three. And how about Notre Dame? How do you explain its absence?</p>

<p>My guess is that this list all about selectivity. Georgetown might be of less quality overall than Emory or Notre Dame but its known to be more selective than both so its here.</p>

<p>Rice and Swarthmore just got the shaft in my opinion.</p>

<p>UVa is not mega selective. Like I said, this is a random list that includes exclusively elite colleges and universities while at the same time, leaving out other elite colleges and universities. It does not stop at the omission of Notre Dame (which is as selective as Georgetown by the way), Rice and Swarthmore. What about Bowdoin, Carleton, Claremont McKenna, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, Pomona and Wesleyan? What about Michigan, UCLA and UNC? </p>

<p>Michigan MBA and Medical programs are included in the list. Ironically, over 30% of the graduate students enrolled at both of those graduate programs completed their undergraduate studies at Michigan.</p>

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<p>actually, only three, namely: Berkeley, Michigan ang UVa. These three great State Universities are just close to each other in almost every single way you view it. UCLA is great too, but I don’t think it’s quite up to par with the three, in my opinion. </p>

<p>Alex, Michigan undergrad’s absence is still better than Emory, ND and Vanderbilt not in the list at all, although I still think Michigan deserves to be in the list than WUSt does.</p>

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There has to be a cutoff somewhere Alex. I think the goal of the group is to include undergraduate institutions that have the greatest “selectivity” and “reputation”. Notre Dame is the only strange omission on this list IMHO because it is the most prestigious Catholic institution. Perhaps there is a religious bias? Rice and Swarthmore simply aren’t as well-known for being “elite” as the other schools on the list although they have high “academic quality”, just like Michigan, UCLA and UNC. All LACs besides Amherst and Williams aren’t well known and aren’t really major feeders into professional sectors such as Big Law and Wall Street.</p>

<p>If the goal of the group is to bring together a group for the purpose of finding romantic and professional connections, it would make sense to include the schools which have the greatest channels and alumni presence in elite careers such as banking, consulting, talent management, corporate law and medicine.</p>

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Michigan Law is of course included in the list as well. All three of Michigan’s professional programs are elite and well-respected, while its undergrad somewhat pales in comparison. It is logical that the cream of the crop of Michigan’s undergraduate population attend their alma mater’s professional schools, wouldn’t you say?</p>